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    North Korea sends top military official as 'special envoy' to China

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    Choe Ryong Hae, center, and other North Korean delegates pose before leaving Pyongyang airport for China on Wednesday.

    North Korea says that a "special envoy" for leader Kim Jong Un has left for China.

    The North's official Korean Central News Agency said in a short dispatch Wednesday that the envoy was Choe Ryong Hae.

    There were no other details. Choe is the North Korea military's top political officer tasked with supervising the 1.2-million-strong force.

    China is North Korea's only major political and economic benefactor. Beijing has faced pressure from Washington to use its influence to push Pyongyang to abandon its nuclear ambitions.

    Kim Jong Un hasn't visited Beijing since he took power after his father Kim Jong Il died in December 2011.

    Choe was one of a handful of new vice marshals North Korea announced last year.

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    Fatty's got an itch and needs Daddy's permission to scratch it. Incoming nuclear testing!

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  • 13
    May
    2013
    6:05am, EDT

    Report: North Korea axes hard-line defense chief

    North Korea shakes up their military leadership by appointing a little-known army general, Jang Jong Nam, as minister of the People's Armed Forces. NBCNews.com's Dara Brown reports.

    By Hyung-Jin Kim, The Associated Press

    SEOUL, South Korea -- North Korea has replaced its hard-line defense chief with a little-known army general, according to a state media report Monday, in what outside analysts call an attempt to install a younger figure meant to solidify leader Kim Jong Un's grip on the powerful military.

    Jang Jong Nam's appointment is the latest move since Kim succeeded his late father in late 2011 that observers see as a young leader trying to consolidate control. The announcement comes amid easing animosities after weeks of warlike threats between the rivals, including North Korean vows of nuclear strikes. Pyongyang's rhetorical outbursts against massive U.S.-South Korean war drills and U.N. sanctions over the North's February nuclear test were seen, in part, as a push to portray Kim Jong Un at home as a respected military commander on the world stage.

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    Gen. Kim Kyok Sik, right, stands with then-North Korean leader Kim Jong Il on April 23, 2007. He was reportedly replaced by little-known army General Jang Jong Nam on Monday.

    Jang's new role as minister of the People's Armed Forces, however, isn't thought to indicate a potential softening of Pyongyang's stance toward Seoul and Washington any time soon, analysts said. Jang replaces Kim Kyok Sik, the former commander of battalions believed responsible for attacks on South Korea in 2010 that killed 50 South Koreans. Outsiders don't know much about Jang, but analysts said it's unlikely that Kim Jong Un would name a moderate to the post at a time of tension with the outside world.

    Mention of Jang's new role was buried in a state media dispatch listing those who attended an art performance with Kim Jong Un. It's not known exactly when Jang was formally appointed to the ministerial post.

    The announcement coincided with the beginning Monday of U.S.-South Korean naval exercises involving a nuclear-powered U.S. aircraft carrier. North Korea has criticized the carrier's inclusion in the drills, which it claims are preparations for an invasion of the North. Also, when tensions peaked in March, Washington took the unusual step of announcing that nuclear-capable B-52 and B-2 bombers had participated in the earlier, larger-scale joint drills between the allies. North Korea regularly cites the powerful U.S. nuclear arsenal and Washington's deployment of those assets in the region as justification for its own pursuit of nuclear weapons.

    One of the most notable changes from Kim Jong Un was the replacement of the powerful military chief, Ri Yong Ho, who was dismissed because of what Pyongyang called an unspecified illness. Outside observers speculated that Ri, who held a different post than the one Jang has been appointed to, was purged as Kim tried to put his stamp on his government. Ri was also replaced by a little-known general.

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    State media previously identified Jang as head of the army's First Corps and said he pledged allegiance to Kim Jong Un and threatened South Korea in a speech last December. Jang was quoted as saying that his corps would annihilate its enemies and "turn each ravine into their death pitfall when the hour of decisive battle comes."

    Kim Jong Un appears to be naming someone from a new generation to bolster his rule of the 1.2 million-member military, said Chang Yong Seok at the Institute for Peace and Unification Studies at Seoul National University.

    Jang is believed to be in 50s, while his predecessor, Kim Kyok Sik, is in his early 70s, according to Seoul's Unification Ministry, which is responsible for dealings with the North.

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    Or, perhaps the fat little North Korean slug thought the older fellow was about to turn the military machine on him.

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  • 23
    Apr
    2013
    5:26am, EDT

    Analysis: North Korea blinked in missile standoff, but will threaten again

    By Jim Maceda, Correspondent, NBC News

    News analysis

    SEOUL, South Korea – After weeks of a standoff that, at times, worried even the most stoic South Koreans, the North blinked. The latest North Korea crisis is over, but the question is: for how long? 

    The view doesn’t look encouraging. North Korea’s medium-range missiles remain locked on their launchers; U.S. and South Korean destroyers still ply Korea’s coastline. 

    Across the region, Patriot anti-missile batteries are on the ready. One top U.S. nuclear expert says North Korea will need to test-fire more missiles and nuclear arms in the future. 

    But at least for now, instead of drumbeats of war, Pyongyang is sending out feelers about talks and piling on its demands: The complete lifting of United Nations' sanctions, a permanent end to U.S.-South Korean war games, and lots of apologies. The latest came on Tuesday with the North insisting it must be recognized as a nuclear weapons state, rejecting a U.S. condition that it agree to give up its nuclear arms program before talks can begin.

    The South called the North's conditions “shameless.”

    Secretary of State John Kerry has taken a broader view, saying it’s “at least a beginning gambit.”

    But he’s already dismissing talks until North Korea shows serious signs of dismantling its nuclear arms program. In response, Kim Jong Un’s regime has said that’s a non-starter – that its nuclear weapons are its “treasured sword” and aren’t negotiable at any price.

    Secretary of State John Kerry opened the door to direct disarmament talks with North Korea, but there is still no sign Kim Jong Un is prepared to stop testing nuclear weapons. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

    We’ve been here before. The Obama administration calls it “a cycle of provocation.” North Korea deploys threatening words and actions – capped off with a real missile or nuclear test – in order to gain concessions from the U.S. and South Korea, usually in the form of cash. The North then retreats -- until the next crisis.

    Some Korea experts say Washington has failed to break that cycle, despite its efforts at “strategic patience” – a highfalutin expression for avoiding engagement with the North while letting sanctions bite.

    And they blame that U.S. policy as much as North Korea for the impasse.

    “The problem is that, when there’s a sense of crisis, the U.S. doesn’t want to talk to Pyongyang because it would be rewarding bad behavior,” said John Delury, a professor at Seoul’s Yonsei University. “But then when the crisis abates, the U.S. doesn’t want to talk with Pyongyang [either] because it’s not a priority."

    Analysts like Delury say it’s only a matter of time before tensions, once again, will rise to dangerous levels. That’s because the U.S. keeps learning the wrong lessons, so it’s stuck in a low-grade, perpetual crisis with North Korea.

    They say the U.S. has failed to see that North Korea is really after security first and foremost, followed by recognition and international legitimacy, not aid. If they were just after money, Pyongyang would not have shut down its Keasong Industrial Park, a joint North-South venture which generates billions of dollars annually in trade, during the latest crisis.

    North Korea’s provocations are often seen in the West as a kind of pro-active blackmail, but Delury said that’s another U.S. misperception.

    “North Korea is reactive,” he explained. “Half of its provocations are counter or defensive moves to assert its strength in the face of far more powerful U.S., South Korean and Japanese forces arrayed against them.”

    It’s true that, during the most recent crisis, the tide turned away from confrontation only when the U.S. dialed down its displays of nuclear-capable weaponry, like B2 stealth bombers and F-22 super fighters, used as a show of force during war maneuvers close to North Korea’s border.

    Much, of course, depends on the extent to which China – North Korea’s main benefactor with a hand on the tiny country’s food and fuel taps – can persuade Kim that he can rule without the need for nuclear weapons as his ultimate guarantee. 

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    But the U.S. -- Korea watchers here say -- needs to grasp that North Korea’s goal is to survive in a tough neighborhood, surrounded by nuclear powers – China, Russia and U.S. forces. 

    If the U.S. wants to break its perpetual cycle of crisis with North Korea, it may well have to bite the bullet – these analysts say – and sit down and negotiate with a “nuclear North Korea,” without officially recognizing the state, or its atomic capability. 

    Rather than cash handouts, that could open the door to serious discussions about North Korea’s economic development – something that Kim himself recently called a top priority. Getting there, though, is fraught with difficulty – it would require massive amounts of political will and constant communication through a high-level U.S. special envoy to North Korea, someone like George Mitchell or Madeleine Albright.

    It would also mean a leap of faith by the young Kim – if indeed he is in control of his country, as U.S. officials now believe - and the unlearning of wrong lessons by the U.S.

    But the alternative, says Delury, is much worse – more bristling standoffs in the future, with even more risk that an accident or miscalculation could trigger a disaster. “Both sides have gone from trading statements about who is really ready for war, to trading statements about who is really ready for dialogue. But that doesn’t mean anything has really changed at a fundamental level.”

    And, unless it does, sooner or later North Korea will be back on the airwaves, threatening the world with its “sledge-hammer blows.”

    Jim Maceda is an NBC News foreign correspondent based in London, currently on assignment in Seoul, South Korea.

    Reuters contributed to this report.

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    They are waiting for us to cave. Our allies and enemies seem to think that we should just dole out money and recognition to them and kiss their ass so there can be peace periodically as we kick the can down the road. I say keep them on ignore. If they want to get froggy, let them jump.

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  • 16
    Apr
    2013
    6:20pm, EDT

    North Korea vows 'sledge-hammer blows' of retaliation over protests in South

    Jeon Heon-Kyun/AP

    An effigy of North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un, left, and his father, former leader Kim Jong-Il, before being burned, during a rally against North Korea, in Seoul on April 15.

    By Robert Birsel and Jack Kim, Reuters

    North Korea issued new threats against South Korea on Tuesday, vowing "sledge-hammer blows" of retaliation if South Korea did not apologize for anti-North Korean protests the previous day when the North was celebrating the birth of its founding leader.


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    The North also rejected what it called "cunning" U.S. overtures for talks, saying it will not be humiliated into being dragged to sit at the negotiating table by Washington.

    But a senior U.S. military official in South Korea said the North Korean leadership was looking for a way to cool down its rhetoric after weeks of warnings of war.

    On Monday, the North dropped its shrill threats against the United States and South Korea as it celebrated the 101st anniversary of the birth of its first leader, Kim Il-Sung, raising hopes for an easing of tension in a region that has for weeks seemed on the verge of conflict.


    But the North's KCNA news agency said on Tuesday the North Korean army had issued an ultimatum to the South after rallies in the South on Monday at which portraits of North Korea's leaders were burned.

    "Our retaliatory action will start without any notice from now," KCNA reported, citing military leaders of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), as North Korea is officially known.

    The North's Foreign Ministry also rejected what it said was cunning U.S. scheming aimed at defusing tensions on the Korean peninsula with an offer of talks while deploying military assets capable of launching nuclear strikes against it.

    "We do not oppose dialogue but we will not sit down at talks table in humiliation against opponents who are swinging the nuclear club against us," an unnamed Foreign Ministry spokesman said in comments carried by the KCNA news agency.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said in Seoul last week that Washington was open to dialogue with Pyongyang on the condition that the talks would lead to eliminating nuclear arsenal from the North.

    South Korean media reported several small demonstrations in the capital, Seoul, on Monday. One television station showed pictures of a handful of protesters burning a portrait of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    Small counter-protests, by South Koreans calling for dialogue with the North, were also held, media reported.

    The North has threatened nuclear attacks on the United States, South Korea and Japan after new U.N. sanctions were imposed in response to its latest nuclear arms test in February.

    The North has also been angry about annual military exercises between U.S. and South Korean forces, describing them as a "hostile" act. The United States dispatched B52 and B2 stealth bombers from their bases to take part.

    Offer of talks
    But along with the new threat on Tuesday, the North's KCNA raised the possibility of dialogue.

    "If the puppet authorities truly want dialogue and negotiations, they should apologize for all anti-DPRK hostile acts, big and small, and show the compatriots their will to stop all these acts," KCNA cited the North's military as saying.

    A South Korean Foreign Ministry spokesman later told a briefing the North Korean ultimatum was not worth a response and South Korea was waiting for the North to make a "wise decision".

    Last week, the South's President Park Geun-hye offered talks but the North rejected the overture as a "cunning" ploy.

    Park will meet U.S. President Barack Obama at the White House on May 7 to discuss economic and security issues, including "countering the North Korean threat", the White House said on Monday.

    The U.S. military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said a North Korean missile test or nuclear test were possible but he believed it was trying to tone down its the war of words.

    "The DPRK leadership is trying to figure out a way to off-ramp from the heightened state of rhetoric that we've been seeing for the past several weeks," the official told reporters.

    North Korea faced difficulties trying to "fix and tune up" its Soviet-era conventional weapons, and that was why it wanted nuclear weapons, and the missiles to deliver them.

    "They are replacing that decreasing conventional capability with increasing asymmetric capability of weapons of mass destruction, intercontinental ballistic missiles and special operations forces," the official said.

    The United States has offered talks with the North, but on the pre-condition that it abandons its nuclear weapons ambitions. North Korea deems its nuclear arms a "treasured sword" and has vowed never to give them up.

    However, U.S. Secretary of State Kerry, ending his visit to Korea, appeared to open the door to talking without requiring the North to take denuclearization steps in advance. Beijing, he said, could be an intermediary.

    North Korea has conducted three nuclear tests but it was not believed to be near weapons capability.

    Missile launches and nuclear tests by North Korea are both banned under U.N. Security Council resolutions that were expanded after the North's February test.

    The aim of the North's aggression, analysts say, is to bolster the leadership of Kim Jong Un, the 30-year-old grandson Kim Il-Sung, or to force the United States, which has 28,000 troops in South Korea, to open talks.

    A U.S. Marine transport helicopter crashed in South Korea on Tuesday, near the border with North Korea, with 21 people on board during exercises with South Korean forces.

    The U.S. military described the accident as a "hard landing" and said six people were in stable condition in hospital. South Korean media said the helicopter caught fire after all on board got out. The cause of the accident would be investigated, the U.S. military said.

     

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    Kerry in Japan: US ready to 'reach out' to North Korea

    China urges peaceful resolution of North Korea nuclear standoff

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    this korea crap is getting boring...

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  • 11
    Apr
    2013
    7:00pm, EDT

    Obama calls for end to North Korea's 'belligerent approach'

    Both the U.S. and Japan have defense systems ready should North Korea's missiles pose a threat. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    By Jim Miklaszewski and Becky Bratu, NBC News

    President Barack Obama called for an end to North Korea's "belligerent approach" Thursday, but said the United States will take all necessary steps to protect its people and meet its obligations to allies in the region — meanwhile, it was also officially revealed that the Pentagon believes the rogue nation likely has nuclear-capable missiles.

    Following a meeting with United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon in the Oval Office, Obama spoke about the situation in the Korean Peninsula for the first time in weeks.

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    "We both agree that now's the time for North Korea to end the belligerent approach that they've been taking and to try to lower temperatures," Obama said. "Nobody wants to see conflict on the Korean Peninsula."


    Obama added, "We will continue to try to work to resolve some of those issues diplomatically even as I indicated to the secretary general that the United States will take all necessary steps to protect its people and to meet our obligations under our alliances in the region."

    U.S. officials tell NBC News they believe North Korea does have the capability to put a nuclear weapon on a missile and that they have missile deliverable nukes. Those missiles, however, cannot go more than 1000 miles. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    The North has been threatening the United States and its "puppet" South Korea almost daily in recent weeks. According to assessments by the U.S. and South Korea, the North has placed medium-range missiles on its east coast. U.S. officials said a missile could be fired "at any moment, any hour."

    "We are no longer dealing with technicalities. We are dealing only with intentions," a U.S. official told NBC News.

    A recent assessment by the Defense Intelligence Agency claims with “moderate confidence” that North Korea has learned how to miniaturize a nuclear weapon so that it can be mounted on a ballistic missile but that the weapon's “reliability will be low.”

    The public revelation of previously undisclosed information came Thursday from Rep. Doug Lamborn during a budget hearing before the House Armed Service Committee.  The information came within “one paragraph” of the DIA assessment that had the incorrect security designation.

    While the conclusion of the assessment has been publicly reported before, including in an April 3 report on NBC Nightly News, Lamborn's mention of it is the first time a government official has discussed it publicly.

    Related: North Korean progress on nuclear arms, long-range missiles rattles US and allies

    In response to the revelation, Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said it "would be inaccurate to suggest that the North Korean regime has fully tested, developed, or demonstrated the kinds of nuclear capabilities" Lamborn mentioned.

    "While I cannot speak to all the details of a report that is classified in its entirety, it would be inaccurate to suggest that the North Korean regime has fully tested, developed, or demonstrated the kinds of nuclear capabilities referenced in the passage," Little said in a statement. "The United States continues to closely monitor the North Korean nuclear program and calls upon North Korea to honor its international obligations."

    Related: US on missile watch as North Korea celebrates Kim dynasty

    Gen. James Clapper, director of National Intelligence, tried to distance the administration from the assessment, saying it is not accurate to suggest that the regime has "fully developed and tested" the kind of nuclear weapons mentioned by Lamborn. That, however, does not mean the assessment is inaccurate, as it did not say the weapons were fully tested.

    Related: Federal cuts jeopardize national security, intelligence chief warns

    On Wednesday, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel said the United States was "fully prepared to deal with any contingency" or provocation that North Korea may take, but added that the U.S. hopes the rhetoric will be "ratcheted down."

    NBC News' Andrea Mitchell and Robert Windrem contributed to this report.

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    Unfortunately there is really only one way to deal with a bully and North Korea is the bully. I said it before and I'll continue to say it.... MacArthur was right "In war there is no substitute for victory."

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  • 11
    Apr
    2013
    6:38am, EDT

    China grows weary of North Korea's 'chaos and conflict'

    As Kerry heads to Seoul, South Korea, tensions with North Korea continue to rise as it remains unclear whether or not the latest rhetoric is merely Kim Jong-un showing off his military strength. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

    By Ian Williams, correspondent, NBC News

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    BEIJING -- There was confusion at the China-North Korea border Thursday after Chinese tour operators halted trips into the North.

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    Two men wait Thursday for dispatch at a customs port in the Chinese border city of Dandong. The largest border crossing between North Korea and China has been closed to tourist groups, a Chinese official said Wednesday.

    It wasn't clear whether the instruction to do so came from the Chinese authorities, the North Koreans, or was made by the nervous operators themselves.

    But it mirrored a wider confusion over Chinese policy toward Pyongyang, which depends on Beijing for food and fuel, as well as diplomatic support.

    As North Korea readies what is thought to be a missile test, China's Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei has spent most of the week deflecting questions with the official line that "all sides" should show restraint and begin dialogue, and that peace and stability are a "shared responsibility."

    But in an interview with NBC News he was more forthright about China's growing concern. "We do not want to see chaos and conflict on China's doorstep," he said.

    In fact, there are signs that China is rethinking its policy toward the North. President Xi Jinping last weekend told a forum of political and business leaders that no country "should be allowed to throw a region and even the whole world into chaos for selfish gain." He didn't mention the North by name, but it was pretty clear who he was referring to.

    Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel described North Korea's actions and "bellicose rhetoric" as "skating very close to a dangerous line."  NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    Earlier, China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi had told UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon that Beijing would not allow "troublemaking on China's doorstep," a line repeated in an editorial in Thursday's China Daily.

    China also supported the latest UN sanctions that followed North Korea's third nuclear test.

    In fact, relations between the two have been souring for some time as Pyongyang has consistently ignored calls by Beijing for restraint.

    "To many in Beijing, North Korea is looking less like a strategic asset and more like a strategic burden," said Cheng Xiaohe, associate professor at Renmin University's School of International Studies.

    In the past, even when clearly unhappy, Beijing has treated the North with kid gloves because of fear of the North collapsing, and also as a hedge against U.S. power in Asia.

    'Little Fatty'
    According to leaked 2010 diplomat cables obtained by Wikileaks and posted by newspapers the Guardian and the New York Times, Chinese officials described the regime in the North as behaving like a "spoiled child."

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    Chinese social media, which is as close a barometer of public opinion as you can get here, has in recent days been buzzing with criticism -- not of the U.S., but of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, for leading his country to disaster and the world close to war.

    Kim is derided as "Little Fatty" or "Fatty the Third."

    One former top U.S. diplomat agrees there are clear signs that China is losing patience with North Korea. Kurt Campbell, the state department's top official for east asia, said there are signs that a relationship once described by Chairman Mao to be "as close as lips and teeth" is wearing thin.

    He said this was notable in public statements and private conversations with U.S. officials. Speaking last week at a forum at Johns Hopkins University, he said this had the potential for a large impact on northeast Asia.

    What's harder to say is how this growing frustration will be translated into concrete actions to pressure the North.

    Cheng of Renmin University noted that in 2003 Beijing turned off the oil supply in order to force Pyongyang to join six-party talks and could use that weapon again.

    Secret filming captures N. Korean smugglers sneaking into China to get supplies for their impoverished country, as a refugee tells of the horror of life under Kim Jong Un. ITN's Angus Walker reports.

    "If China has political will, China can do something," he said. "China can make a difference."

    Secretary of State John Kerry will be taking this up with China's leaders when he is there this weekend.

    "China and the U.S. share common interests in peace, stability and denuclearisation," said the Foreign Ministry's Hong Lei. "We hope to work with the U.S. side towards that end."

    Significantly, there has so far been no Chinese criticism of the display of U.S. high-tech firepower in the region, which is seen as another tacit condemnation of Pyongyang's antics.

    That said, Kerry will no doubt point out, as other officials have done privately, that if China fails to act the result will be an even bigger U.S. military presence in the region and a possible regional arms race -- precisely what China has said it wants to avoid.

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    China is growing weary of Un? Well here's a plan. Much like when you go outside after a rainstorm and see a bloated little slug meandering down your walkway, what do you do? What you do is put your foot squarely on it and squish it into non-existence because you can.

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  • 9
    Apr
    2013
    7:04pm, EDT

    North Korea warns foreigners to leave South in advance of 'merciless, sacred, all-out war'

    Claiming they will soon be engaged in a war with South Korea, North Korean officials are advising foreigners to leave the region. Pyongyang is expected to carry out a show of force with a missile that will land in the ocean. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    By Christine Kim and Joyce Lee, Reuters

    SEOUL - North Korea warned foreigners in South Korea on Tuesday to leave the country because they were at risk in the event of conflict, the latest threat of war from Pyongyang.

    Soaring tensions on the peninsula have been fuelled by North Korean anger over the imposition of U.N. sanctions after its last nuclear arms test in February, creating one of the worst crises since the end of the Korean War in 1953.

    "We do not wish harm on foreigners in South Korea should there be a war," said the KCNA news agency, citing its Korea Asia-Pacific Peace Committee.

    KCNA said once war broke out "it will be an all-out war, a merciless, sacred, retaliatory war to be waged by (North Korea)."

    They added, "the committee informs all foreign institutions and enterprises and foreigners, including tourists...that they are requested to take measures for shelter and evacuation in advance for their safety."

    Pyongyang last week advised embassies there to consider pulling out in case of war. Earlier on Tuesday, North Korean workers failed to turn up at a factory complex operated with South Korea, effectively shutting down the last major symbol of cooperation between the hostile neighbors.

    The North Korea government pulled thousands of workers from an industrial factory – jointly run with South Korea – a dramatic move for an extremely impoverished country – as fears mount that the North is poised to test fire two missiles. Amb. Nick Burns discusses.

    Few embassies in Seoul have advised their citizens to quit. The United States, which has also been threatened by Pyongyang, has said there were no imminent signs of threats to American citizens.

    Pyongyang has shown no sign of preparing its 1.2 million-strong army for war, indicating the threats could be partly intended for domestic purposes to bolster Kim Jong Un, 30, the third in his family to lead the reclusive country.

    South Korea's president said she was disappointed at North Korea's decision to halt operations at the Kaesong industrial park, which generates $2 billion in trade for the impoverished state.

    News of the Kaesong closure diverted attention from speculation that the North was about to launch some sort of provocative act this week -- perhaps a missile launch or new nuclear test. However, residents of Seoul carried on with daily activities with no trace of anxiety.

    Few experts had expected Pyongyang to jeopardize Kaesong, which employs more than 50,000 North Koreans making household goods for 123 South Korean firms.

    World leaders have expressed alarm at the crisis and the prospect of a conflict involving a country claiming to be developing nuclear weapons.

    Amb. Dennis Ross discusses the rising tensions with North Korea and the role China plays in the conflict  as well as Secretary of State John Kerry's trip to Israel to revive Mideast peace.

    China, the North's sole diplomatic and financial ally, has shown increasing impatience with Pyongyang. Russian President Vladimir Putin said hostilities could create a cataclysm worse than the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster.

    The North is also angry at weeks of joint U.S.-South Korean military exercises off the coast of the peninsula, with B-2 stealth bombers dispatched from their U.S. bases.

    But the United States announced the postponement last weekend of a long-planned missile launch, a move officials said was aimed at easing tensions on the peninsula.

    North Korean authorities told embassies in Pyongyang they could not guarantee their safety from Wednesday, after saying conflict was inevitable amid the joint U.S.-South Korean military exercises due to last until the end of the month. No diplomats appear to have left the North Korean capital.

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    Can't we just bomb them already and get this nonsense over with? I am tired of this country holding the world for ransom to get what it wants. Calm down Lil' Kim and quit getting your panties in a bunch.

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  • 5
    Apr
    2013
    4:11am, EDT

    Who is North Korea's secretive Kim Jong Un? Here is what we know

    VICE via Reuters file

    North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and former NBA star Dennis Rodman watch an exhibition basketball game in Pyongyang, North Korea, on Feb. 28.

    By Tracy Connor, Staff Writer, NBC News

    North Korean media calls Kim Jong Un "the greatest-ever commander." Dennis Rodman says he is "a normal guy."

    Neither description seems fitting, but little is known about the third-generation leader now locked in a showdown with the U.S. and South Korea that some fear could lead to war.

    Before Kim took over from his father, Kim Jong Il, he had barely been seen in public. And even though he's been in charge for more than a year, there's been only a trickle of information about his personality and habits.

    The most recent details about the man threatening to send missiles to the U.S. come from Rodman, who made a trip to Pyongyang earlier this year. Here are some tidbits about Kim that have emerged outside the North Korean propaganda machine:

    He shares a birthday with Elvis Presley ... maybe: Kim has been reported to be somewhere between 29 and 30 years old. But Kenji Fujimoto, a sushi chef who worked for his family until 2001 and later wrote a tell-all, claims he was born Jan. 8, 1983 — the same date as The King.

    KCNA via Reuters file

    Kim Jong Un and wife Ri Sol-Ju last July.

    He has a first lady: North Korean media revealed Kim was married last July when it announced his fashionable female companion at the opening of an amusement park was his wife, Ri Sol-ju. No one is certain when they tied the knot or whether they have children. South Korean media say she's a former cheerleader and singer. 

    He was educated in the West: Kim attended a state school in Switzerland from 1998 to 2000, posing as a diplomat's son named Pak Un, according to the Washington Post. "I never saw his father or mother," Principal Peter Burri told the paper. Another official described him as "well-integrated, diligent, ambitious." Kim reportedly later attended the Kim Il Sung Military University in Pyongyang, named after his grandfather.

    He's crazy about basketball: He idolized Michael Jordan and was no slouch on the court himself. One high-school buddy described him as "explosive" and a "playmaker." Another said he was fiercely competitive: "He hated to lose."

    KCNA via EPA

    Kim Jong Un and his iMac.

    He's brand-conscious: Teenage buddies recalled he had a collection of expensive Nike sneakers. A recent photo of him plotting military action against the U.S. showed an Apple iMac computer on his desk. His wife supposedly carries a Dior clutch, though some think it's a knock-off.

    His hairstyle is unsanctioned: North Korea reportedly has 28 "recommended" hairstyles for its people. Kim's 'do — shaved on the sides, floppy on top — is not among them, according to a Hong Kong TV network that obtained photos of the approved looks.

    He's a song-and-dance man: High-school classmates told London's Daily Telegraph his favorite song was "Brother Louie" by the German pop duo Modern Talking. Rodman told London's Sun that Kim digs 1980s disco. "There was an all-girl band playing and we were definitely getting down," Rodman said of their visit.

    KCNA via Reuters

    Kim Jong Un looks at a photo of his grandfather Kim Il Sung last month.

    He's a heavyweight: South Korea's Yonhap news agency has reported that after the 2004 death of his mother from cancer, Kim went on a drinking and eating binge, ballooning to almost 200 pounds. He remains plump in a country ravaged by famine and suffers from diabetes and hypertension.

    He's a chip off the old block: Kim looks so much like his grandfather, national founder Kim Il Sung, that North Korea's official news agency had to deny rumors he had gone under the knife. Analysts say he hoped to model himself on his grandfather, who was more liked by his people than Kim's much-feared father.

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    The youngest son of Kim Jong Il succeeded his late father in 2011, becoming the third member of his family to rule the unpredictable and reclusive communist state.

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    Boxers or briefs? Maybe Cammando style? Who F'n cares about Porky's, because he'll become ash if he gets twitchy on the trigger.

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    Apr
    2013
    7:06pm, EDT

    North Korea: Foreign embassy staff may not be safe if there's war

    The missiles recently moved to North Korea's east coast aren't believed capable of carrying nuclear warheads and may not even be armed,but Pyongyang has warned foreign diplomats to have evacuation plans ready. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    By Ian Johnston and Becky Bratu, NBC News

    North Korea told foreign embassies Friday that it will not be able to guarantee their safety “in the event of conflict” from April 10, the U.K. said in a statement.

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Friday that Moscow was in close contact with the United States, China, South Korea and Japan over a North Korean request to consider the possibility of evacuating embassies, Russian news agencies reported.

    "The proposal was made to the embassies in Pyongyang, and we are trying to clarify the situation," Interfax quoted Lavrov as saying during a visit to Uzbekistan. "We are in close contact with our Chinese partners as well as the Americans, the South Koreans and the Japanese.”

    A statement from the U.K. Foreign Office said its embassy “received a communication from the North Korean government this morning saying that the North Korean government would be unable to guarantee the safety of embassies and international organizations in the country in the event of conflict from April 10th.”

    Experts say a ground war with North Korea would be devastating, with 700,000 North Korean soldiers aiming thousands of rockets and artillery at South Korea. NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports.

    “No decisions have been taken, and we have no immediate plans to withdraw our embassy,” the U.K. said in a later statement.

    The significance of April 10 was unclear. However, the North told South Korean companies that operate factories in the Kaesong industrial zone to complete pulling out by April 10, Ok Sung-suk, vice president of an association that represents them, said on Thursday, according to Reuters.

    The missiles aren't capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, however they do have a range of about 2000 miles which means they are within reach of South Korea. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice told NBC’s Andrea Mitchell on Friday that North Korea’s actions were “part of an escalating pattern of hot rhetoric.”

    “We’ve seen this sort of pattern in the past,” she said. “What seems to be somewhat different is the level of the rhetoric and the pace of provocation.”

    Speaking at “Women in the World,” a summit on women’s rights in New York, Rice said North Korea was isolating itself further by creating situations that were leading to maximum international sanctions.

    “The reality is, North Korea says it wants security, says it’s wants economic development,” she said. “I think what would be much wiser for Kim Jung Un as he assesses how to lead his country is to step back and to heed what has been the call of President Obama and other world leaders and to choose the path of peace.”

    She added, “Obviously thus far, he seems to be pushing the envelope.”

    On Thursday, the State Department said the United States had to take necessary defensive steps in light of North Korea's escalating threats.

    But it also emphasized that it could "change course" if the North stopped issuing threats.

    "The moves that we have been making are designed to ensure and to reassure the American people and our allies that we can defend the United States, that we will and that we can defend our allies," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.

    "It was the ratcheting up of tensions on the DPRK [the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, or North Korea's official name] side that caused us to need to shore up our own defense posture,” she said.

    Nuland added that while the U.S. took North Korea's "bellicose threats" seriously, the situation on the Korean Peninsula "does not need to get hotter."

    Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland discusses the increase of aggressive rhetoric that is being expressed on a regular basis by the North Korean government.

    "We can change course here if the DPRK will begin to come back into compliance with its international obligations, will begin to cool things down, take a pause," she added.

    Ambassador Rice also underscored that de-escalation of a nuclear threat was the primary goal of the U.S. government.

     “The United States is ready to do what it takes to defend ourselves and defend our allies in the region should that be necessary,” she said. “Our aim remains though that there to be a de-escalation of these tensions and ideally addressing the nuclear threat through the nuclear table.”

    Rice called on China, which shares a border with North Korea, to press Kim more.

    “China can do more. It is implementing the sanctions that we negotiated and pass. But clearly with the border that they have, with the economic relationship they have, they can do more,” she said, “But you can tell by the nature of their statements, the nature of their actions, they are very much of the view that Kim Jung Un has gone too far … The reality is, we’re united. Kim Jung Un and North Korea are increasingly isolated, including from China.”

    A U.S. intelligence officer said Thursday that North Korea was moving a medium-range missile to a site in the east of the country. The official declined to say where the Musudan missile was headed, but the North has used a site near the Russian border on the coast for its missile tests in the past.

    Citing intelligence sources, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported Friday that a second intermediate-range missile had been hidden on the east coast of North Korea. 

    NBC News' Elizabeth Chuck, Catherine Chomiak, and Reuters contributed to this report.

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    This story was originally published on Thu Apr 4, 2013 8:27 PM EDT

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    If someone were to threaten to shoot me, then he were to come out of his house with a rifle and point it at me, I wouldn't wait to find out whether he was serious about pulling the trigger. Instead, I would immediately neutralize the threat. So, I gotta ask, why in the hell is the United States wait …

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  • 4
    Apr
    2013
    5:03am, EDT

    North Korea's overseas apologists dismiss 'propaganda' about torture, repression

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    Women walk past portraits of North Korea's founder Kim Il Sung and late leader Kim Jong Il in Pyongyang on Monday.

    By Ian Johnston, Staff Writer, NBC News

    Editor's note: This story includes a correction.

    Anyone reading North Korea’s state-owned news agency could be forgiven for thinking that North Korea has legions of supporters throughout the world.

    “U.S. and Its Allies' Moves to Stifle DPRK [Democratic People's Republic of Korea -- or North Korea] Protested in Britain,” “Independent DPRK Praised by Bangladeshi Organization,” and “Day of Sun to Be Celebrated in Italy” are just three of the numerous headlines on KCNA’s English-language site trumpeting overseas support for Kim Jong Un’s regime.

    In response to North Korea's announcement that they will be deploying "small, light" nuclear strikes, the Pentagon has announced it is sending an anti-ballistic missile system to Guam. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    But given the reports by human-rights groups detailing the horror of daily life in North Korea, who are the foreigners taking Pyongyang’s side?

    Last month, the United Nations set up an inquiry to investigate “systematic, widespread and grave violations of human rights.”

    Amnesty International’s North Korea researcher Rajiv Narayan welcomed the move, adding that “millions of people in North Korea suffer extreme forms of repression" with hundreds of thousands of adults and children "in political prison camps and other forms of detention where forced hard labor, torture and other ill treatment is systemic.”

    But Andy Brooks, a 63-year-old British communist, has one word to sum up such reports: “propaganda.”

    He complained that “unsubstantiated claims” were “constantly thrown at the DPRK,” referring to North Korea's official name.

    “People who visit come back with different stories,” he said.

    'Everyone has a job'
    Brooks, secretary-general of the U.K.’s New Communist Party, highlighted the recent visit to North Korea by “the American baseball man” – meaning retired basketball star Dennis Rodman.

    “He didn’t see any of this and he’s certainly not a communist,” he said.

    After being filmed spending time with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, basketball legend Dennis Rodman said that while he doesn't "condone what he does," the dictator is "a good guy" and a friend. NBC's Mara Schiavocampo reports.

    Brooks, who declined to say how many members his party has, had no doubt when asked if he thought North Koreans had a good life.

    “Oh yes. They have free education, everyone has a job. I think everyone has housing and so on. It has, in my view, a very high standard of living,” he said. “One of the proofs of the pudding is the longevity. The average lifespan is 74, 75.”

    Brooks said he had made “many trips” to North Korea and had lunch with Kim Jong Il, the late “Supreme Leader,” who he said was a “great communist thinker.”

    Kim Jong Il was the son of his predecessor Kim Il Sung and father of his successor Kim Jong Un, but Brooks said he did not regard this passage of power from father to son as hereditary.

    “It’s more complicated than that … I think the way to put this, the way I see it, in the DPRK nothing is done except by committees, every decision is collective from the smallest to the highest. The decisions in the DPRK are not the will of one man,” he said.

    Richard Engel journeys to North Korea in this latest episode of Hidden Planet. Engel witnesses a military parade, one of the state events that North Korea has come to be known for, but he also journeys through parts of the country rarely seen by American eyes. Engel goes shopping in a North Korean store, visits computer science students who have never heard of Facebook and takes a train ride through parts of the country that reveal barren fields.

    “It’s a socialist society in which most things are nationalized. It’s under social ownership and they’re trying to develop their part of the country in accordance with the principles they uphold,” he said.

    Asked if he’d rather live in the U.S. or North Korea, he said “oh, North Korea, it goes without saying for me, absolutely.”

    “You look at the great extremes in the U.S., a country so wealthy, a country that could feed the entire world and there are people starving in the streets,” he said.

    However, even fellow communists disown people like Brooks.

    Mark Fischer, national organizer of the Communist Party of Great Britain, described pro-North Korean leftists as “a tiny family group of ultra-Stalinist loops -- the political equivalent of what happens when cousins marry.”

    Fischer, who said his party has several hundred members, said over the years Stalinists had looked for a country embodied their philosophy and had gradually run out of options.

    “These people really are in the Stalinist last-chance saloon,” he said. “They’ve looked to somewhere as the socialist motherland and it’s got … more absurd as time has gone on. They are kind of living fossils.”

    Slideshow: Glimpses into the hermit kingdom of North Korea

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    Asked to explain how someone could support North Korea, Fischer said “to be honest with you, I think there must be a degree of double-think, Orwellian double-think.”

    Seoul-based analyst Daniel Pinkston, of the International Crisis Group, said the North's "apologists" were ignoring its human-rights abuses.

    “I see a lot of these people crying about U.S. imperialism, the unfair system … if they are crying out about all this injustice, why don’t they just go join the KPA [the North’s Korean People’s Army]?” he said.

    “They sit behind their computers in London or Brazilia or New York and send out these kinds of outrageous comments,” he said.

    “Just go, nobody is stopping you, go and live in North Korea.”

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    *sigh* Is there NEVER a time we are not at war?

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  • 4
    Apr
    2013
    4:09am, EDT

    What happens if North Korea gets out of hand? Here are some scenarios

    In response to North Korea's announcement that they will be deploying "small, light" nuclear strikes, the Pentagon has announced it is sending an anti-ballistic missile system to Guam. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    By M. Alex Johnson, staff writer, NBC News

    While political and military analysts sound pretty confident that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's threats are just bluster, you can't get around the fact that the region encompassing the Korean peninsula is one of the most heavily militarized places on Earth, home to three of the world's six-largest militaries.

    If the unthinkable were to happen, how would it play out?

    Leon Panetta, who stepped down as President Barack Obama's defense secretary in February, warned this week in an interview with CNBC that "we don't have as much insight as we should with regards to the inner workings of what happens in North Korea."

    But based on declassified U.S. and U.N. assessments and independent analyses by military scholars, we can make some educated guesses:


    How would North Korea attack?
    Probably with a massive ground assault backed by artillery fire. That's because North Korea's standing military, according to the best U.S. and U.N. intelligence assessments, is the fourth largest in the world, at 1.1 million members. South Korea's, by contrast, is about 690,000 strong.

    Library of Congress Federal Research Division

    That ratio — a manpower superiority of roughly 3-to-2 for the North — is remarkably consistent across calculations of the countries' weaponry, too. By about the same proportion, the North has more tanks, more artillery, more planes, more ships, more missiles. 

    In a 2008 report commissioned by the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Federal Research Division of the Library of Congress depicted North Korea as, in essence, one giant military installation (see map at right).

    How would South Korea respond?
    By being smarter and nimbler.

    Much of the North's equipment is seriously outdated, going back to its alliance with the former Soviet Union during the Cold War. 

    The South's weaponry is less extensive but far more advanced, thanks to modern equipment provided by the U.S. 

    "Overall, South Korea's armed forces have become one of the world's more capable militaries and present a formidable forward defense against any possible attack by North Korea," the British-based International Institute for Strategic Studies concluded in 2011.

    All of that presumes that North Korean troops could make it into the South in the first place. To get there, they would have to go through about 28,000 U.S. troops stationed along the Demilitarized Zone separating the two countries, supported by about 40,000 more just a short hop away in Japan and on a large military base in Guam.

    Doesn't Kim have China to back him up?
    In theory, yes, and that's no small matter. 

    China's 2.3-million-strong miitary is the world's biggest, outpacing the U.S.'s by almost 40 percent. In its annual report to Congress last year, the U.S. Defense Department didn't estimate how many Chinese forces might be based in North Korea, but it did outline the massive array of forces China is believed to have inside its own borders facing the Korean peninsula:

    The map at left depicts China's naval buildup around the Korean peninsula. The map at right details army deployments. Click each map for its full-size version.

    But it's not clear that China has the stomach for a fight. Beijing has signaled its displeasure with the North's recent provocations — just last month, it voted for a U.N. resolution to impose sanctions in response to North Korea's announcement of a nuclear test on Feb. 12.

    P.J. Crowley, an assistant secretary of state during Obama's first term, told NBC News that Kim's erratic behavior has created major "frustration" in Beijing, which he said "does not want to see an implosion of North Korea."

    The U.S., on the other hand, has made it clear that it will defend South Korea. To drive home the point, it sent F-22 stealth fighter jets to South Korea as part of military exercises in a show of force Sunday. And it has sent two warships to the western Pacific to watch for missiles and will soon send an advanced anti-ballistic missile system to its base on Guam, defense officials said.

    Military and political analysts say China doesn't want a showdown over the Koreas because then the superpowers' nuclear arsenals become a factor. The U.S. said in an unclassified 2010 report (.pdf) that its stockpile was about 5,100 warheads — more than 20 times that of China, which the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists estimated in 2011 at 240.

    How long could South Korea hold out?
    Much longer than the North.

    If North Korea were to employ nuclear weapons, it would impact U.S. troops and pressure Japan and South Korea to also consider obtaining nuclear weapons – something that could lead to an all-out arms race.  NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

    To put it bluntly — as the CIA did in an economic assessment last month — North Korea is a mess internally. Industrial and power output have receded to pre-1990 levels, while frequent crop failures since a devastating famine in 1995 have compounded food shortages that have fueled chronic malnutrition. All that's keeping its people afloat are international food aid deliveries, mainly from China, which would almost certainly be disrupted or cut off in a war.

    South Korea, in sharp contrast, boasts a high-tech industrialized economy — one of the 20 biggest in the world, the CIA reported. It has numerous trading partners worldwide to keep it fed and supplied. And because its communications and transportation systems are among the best in the world, it would be much better placed to coordinate civil defense and to move people and material out of harm's way.

    So if a traditional assault is unwinnable, what are Kim's options?
    Very scary ones.

    The Center for International Studies and Research, a nonpartisan French research agency, calculated in October (.pdf) that the North can deploy "a full array of what are typically described as weapons of mass destruction" — one of the biggest chemical and biological stockpiles in the world at 2,500 to 5,000 metric tons, mostly tabun (a nerve agent) and mustard gas.

    In a technically secret process, South Korea is believed to have told the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons that it had destroyed its chemical weapons in 2008.

    And then there are North Korea's own nuclear weapons — the real wild card in the deck.

    U.S. officials and other researchers say North Korea may already have a few dozen warheads that could be fitted atop its vast fleet of ballistic missiles. They're fully capable of hitting targets in Japan, South Korea or elsewhere in the northern Pacific, the officials said.

    Kim may be bluffing, as his father and grandfather did before him. But those weapons mean he must always be taken seriously.

    Mission No. 1, Crowley said, is "figure out a way to denuclearize North Korea."

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    Why doesn't Obama send in the drones? Oh I forgot, he's saving the drones for US citizens.

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    Apr
    2013
    10:14am, EDT

    How do you solve a problem like North Korea? Three viewpoints

    Vowing to reopen the Yongbyong nuclear reactor, North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un showed no sign he's listening to the outside world and has no intention of giving up their nuclear weapons. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

    By Tracy Connor, Staff Writer, NBC News

    North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's brinkmanship is in full bloom. He's ordered the missiles prepped, dismissed the armistice and announced plans to bring a nuclear reactor back on line.

    The U.S. response -- a restrained show of force by fighter jets and warships, along with comments that simultaneously decry and downplay the threat -- has not stopped the threats.

    Foreign-policy analysts agree the situation is troubling, though there's a deep difference of opinion on what approach would convince Kim to play nice.

    Ignore him
    The U.S. routine of flexing its muscles whenever Pyongyang lobs another threat Washington's way is playing right into Kim's hands, said Doug Bandow, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute. Like many a parenting expert, he believes the White House should react to North Korea's bad behavior by ignoring it.

    North Korea first became a nuclear power when Bill Clinton was president and dialed down efforts after receiving aid, but now they are ready to restart their nuclear program.  What is also worrisome is that South Korea and Japan are now talking about trying to get nuclear weapons. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

    Ordering fighter and bomber flyovers meant to show the U.S. means business "just reinforces their behavior," Bandow said. "It gives them attention, showing how this bankrupt, starving country can get a response from the great superpower.

    "We are acting as if we are worried about them. To my mind, the response should be, 'Who? Oh, THEM.'"

    Yes, Kim could respond to the cold shoulder by ramping up the provocations to get some kind of response, but he's already used up so many that "at some point it's hard to imagine what new threats he could make," Bandow said.


    Photos of Kim surveying U.S.-bound missile routes aside, Bandow finds it hard to believe that he's truly the supreme commander "with the power by himself to careen off into war."

    "There's nothing to suggest they're suicidal," he said of the regime. But "it's easy to make a mistake" when tensions are escalating fast, he added.

    The solution is for the U.S. to disengage. "Why is North Korea our problem?" he said.

    KCNA via EPA

    In a picture released by North Korea's official news agency, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un convenes an operations meeting March 29 at an undisclosed location where he ordered strategic rocket forces to be on standby to strike U.S. and South Korean targets.

    Punish him
    Ignoring the threats would be a terrible mistake, according to Gordon Chang, author of "Nuclear Showdown: North Korea Takes on the World," who says the U.S. should be stepping up action against a nuclear-capable North Korea.

    He said B-2 bomber and F-22 Raptor overflights should continue, if only to send a message to the South Korean public, which is increasingly losing confidence in America's ability to defend them and pushing for Seoul to develop its own nuclear program, which would destabilize the region.

    The time has come for stepped-up interdiction of North Korean shipping and aircraft movements, to stop Pyongyang from selling nuclear technology to Iran with the cooperation of China, he said.

    And Chang said the Obama administration should be driving a wedge between North Korea and China by telling Beijing there will be consequences if it continues cozying up to Kim. "North Korea would not be making these threats if they felt like the Chinese were going to clamp down on them," he said.

    Chang does not buy the argument that North Korea doesn't have many more tricks up its sleeve, noting that Kim could make good on his threat to shut down the jointly run Kaesong Industrial Region, the main symbol of cooperation with the South.

    Hours after this interview, North Korean authorities were not allowing South Korean workers into Kaesong, according to the South Korea's Unification Ministry and Reuters.

    Bae Jung-Hyun/Yonhap via AP

    A U.S. Air Force F-16 fighter jet lands on the runway during military exercises at the Osan U.S. Air Base in Pyeongtaek, south of Seoul, South Korea, on Tuesday.

    The U.S. should one-up Kim's declaration that the armistice in place for 60 years has been replaced by a state of war -- and agree that the armistice is over, so the U.S. is legally able to use force.

    "That would shake up the North Korean regime," he said. "It would show there's a new attitude in Washington."

    "What I argue for has very substantial downsides, but they are the least worst solutions," he added. "Nobody wants to provoke a crisis, but it's that type of thinking that got us into this situation."

    Hug it out
    Little more than a year into the job held by his father and his grandfather, Kim has managed to paint himself into a corner -- and the U.S. needs to give him a way out, says Han Park, a University of Georgia professor who has served as an unofficial negotiator in North Korea.

    Because he has not consolidated his power at home, the fledgling leader cannot back off. "There has to be a face-saving device," Park said.

    "Sanctions will not work. They have never worked," the professor said. "It will aggravate the North Korean leadership even more."

    Now that it has some nuclear capability, Pyongyang will not relinquish it unless its security is assured, he said. And the only way to do that is bestowing diplomatic recognition on North Korea and working toward a peace treaty.

    Without good-faith talks, Kim will stay on a collision course with the U.S.

    "Military confrontation would be unthinkable, but unthinkable things can happen," Park said.

    There's no question North Korea would be on the losing end of a conflict, he said. Regardless, "war is something that we cannot afford."

    "Giving North Korea peace? What's wrong with that?" he said.

    Slideshow: Glimpses into the hermit kingdom of North Korea

    David Guttenfelder / AP

    As chief Asia photographer for the Associated Press, David Guttenfelder has had unprecedented access to communist North Korea. Here's a rare look at daily life in the secretive country.

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    This story was originally published on Tue Apr 2, 2013 7:42 PM EDT

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    Pick a small city and smoke it then play musical chairs with the rest..........

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