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    27
    Mar
    2013
    7:49am, EDT

    'We grew up with 30 years in war': Is end in sight for one of world's longest-running conflicts?

    Danny Gold

    Flags with the face of imprisoned Kurdish leader Abdullah Ocalan dot the crowd at Newroz celebrations in Diyarbakir, Turkey, on Thursday.

    By Danny Gold, NBC News contributor

    DIYARBAKIR, Turkey -- The dancing, singing and picnics marking Kurdish New Year were last week punctuated by a message from an imprisoned icon, whose image graced thousands of T-shirts and flags at the celebration.

    Guerrilla leader Abdullah Ocalan's statement expressed a willingness to halt violence and negotiate with the Turkish government. It also offered a glimmer of hope that a conflict which has claimed 40,000 lives since 1984 may soon come to an end.

    Shortly after Ocalan's announcement was read to hundreds of thousands of Kurds gathered in this southeastern city for Newroz festivities, Turkish fighter jets boomed overhead. To many, their message was clear.

    "We trusted the Turkish government before," said Ilyas Dalgia, a 27-year-old from a nearby village who works in tourism. "This is the last time, and only because Ocalan says."

    For now, most Kurds will put their trust in the man that many call "Apo," or uncle, and who has been held in an isolated prison on an island for the past 14 years.

    Ocalan is leader of the banned Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), designated as terrorists by the United States, European Union and Turkey.

    His statement called for a new era of negotiations with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and offered a cease-fire and the withdrawal of guerrilla fighters to outside Turkish borders. The move comes after a particularly bloody year in the insurrection, which is one of the world's longest-running conflicts.

    "Let guns be silent and politics dominate" those are the words that could signal the end of the near 30-year campaign of violence by Kurdish PKK rebels in Turkey. Their leader, Abdullah Ocalan, has been in solitary confinement on an island off Istanbul since being captured in 1999. He has sent a message -- read out to hundreds of thousands of Kurds gathered in south-east Turkey -- urging them to lay down their arms and withdraw to Iraq. Jonathan Rugman Channel Four Europe reports.

    Yet in the streets and political offices in the Kurdish region, heavy skepticism remains as to the extent to which the Turkish government is willing to commit. Thirty years of fighting and generations of oppression have left the Kurds with very little trust in the government, and repeated failures in past negotiations have left a bitter taste.

    The Kurds are an ethnic group which lives mainly in an area straddling the borders of Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. Iran and Iraq officially recognize internal regions as Kurdish.

    They make up an estimated 15 million of Turkey's population of around 80 million people. They have long suffered discrimination and oppression at the hands of the Turkish government.

    While Ocalan once called for the establishment of a Kurdish country, the PKK has tempered demands to greater autonomy, including constitutional rights allowing Kurds to openly express their cultural identity.

    According to Kendal Nezan, president of the Kurdish Institute of Paris, the Kurds have fought various powers throughout history -- from the ancient Assyrians to the Ottoman Empire -- to create an independent Kurdistan, but the last Kurdish principality collapsed in 1847. He describes the Kurdish people as a "victim of ... geography, of history."

    Massacre
    At 27 years old, Ilgias has never known peace times in the southeast region of Turkey. Like most Kurds his age, he has friends who have either gone up to the mountains to join the guerrillas or been imprisoned. "If this chance does not go well, one million will go to the mountains," he says with the typical bombast of young men.

    The sentiment, though, is echoed by many in the region who feel that this is the last in a string of many chances for peace. Many are asking whether this is just one more mark in an endless cycle of unfruitful peace talks.

    Previous efforts have failed, having catastrophic results. In 1999, Ocalan issued a similar call for withdrawal, and hundreds of Kurdish guerrillas were massacred as they crossed into Iraq. For some, these incidents speak louder than statements from Erdogan.

    Danny Gold

    Journalist Ozgur Amed is not optimistic about the peace process.

    "It won't be so easy. Maybe something will change, but I don't believe the government. If they want (to make peace), they can do it easily," said a 26-year-old local journalist who goes by Ozgur Amed.

    Amed has been arrested three times and currently awaits sentencing on two trials, a fact of life he finds so commonplace it takes three days of conversation for him to bring it up. In 2012, Turkey was ranked number one by the Committee to Protect Journalists in imprisoning journalists after jailing dozens of Kurds for alleged ties to terrorism.

    Like many others in Diyarbakir last week, Amed had to flee his village as a child after Turkish forces razed it for alleged support of terrorists. During the 1980s and 1990s, thousands of villages were deserted as the war raged. 

    Despite his skepticism, he still thinks the people have little choice but to cling to the prospect of peace. "In Diyarbakir, the people are tired. Their neighbors, their families are in prison," he added. "They're so tired. "

    In recent months, violence between the PKK and the Turkish government reached the highest point in at least decade. In a November report, the International Crisis Group estimated that 870 people had been killed in the conflict in the past 18 months. In late December 2011, the Turkish military bombed a group of Kurdish smugglers it mistakenly thought were guerrillas crossing the Iraq border. Thirty-four civilians were killed and massive protests, often violent, rocked the country. Later in the year, hundreds of Kurdish prisoners waged a 60-day hunger strike that only ended when Ocalan called it off.

    With the January assassinations of three Kurdish women in Paris, one a founder of the PKK, it seemed as though 2013 would proceed in the same manner. Yet the past few months have been marked by progress.

    The Turkish government has openly acknowledged that it has been negotiating with Ocalan. It has allowed the Kurdish language to be spoken in courts and allowed the Peace and Democracy Party (BDP), the most powerful Kurdish political party, to meet with Ocalan. Prisoners on both sides have been released.

    Danny Gold

    Firat Anli, a local politician, was recently released after serving three years in a Turkish jail. "When you are working for human rights, the government says you are a terrorist," he said.

    Firat Anli, mayor of a municipality in Diyarbakir, was released in February from a Turkish prison after serving three years on terrorism charges. In recent years, the Turkish government has imprisoned thousands of activists, journalists, lawyers and politicians on charges that they were connected to the outlawed Union of Communities in Kurdistan (KCK), an umbrella organization of Kurdish parties that oversees the PKK. "When you are working for human rights, the government says you are a terrorist," he said.

    So many of his colleagues had been arrested that Anli had actually called the police department two months earlier to request that they not come to his house if they planned to arrest him, but rather call and he would turn himself in. His request was ignored, but Anli was happy that his children were sleeping. He says he now feels like a foreign person in his own city.

    "We are living in a tragedy," he said. "We grew up with 30 years in war. This has given us trauma. Forgetting this is not so easy. No one can tell us to forget."

    'We want to believe our eyes'
    Still, Anli maintains a cautious optimism for peace. He brings up Nelson Mandela as an example, saying that now the legal, democratic means are the only way. He is hesitant, though, of being too optimistic until concrete steps are taken. "We don't just want to believe our ears, we want to believe our eyes," he said.

    Anli says that PKK fighters will not immediately come down from the mountains and become farmers simply because Turkey has said it wants peace.

    "This doesn't mean the PKK and Ocalan will give up their guns," he said. "In the Middle East, if you have no guns you have no power, and you will be destroyed."

    Abdullah Demirbas, mayor of another municipality in Diyarbakir, spoke of instability in the Middle East -- especially in Syria, where a Kurdish militia affiliated with the PKK has gained a foothold -- of contributing to the change of heart of both parties regarding a peaceful solution. "Both the Turkish side and the PKK have realized it's impossible to make progress by killing," he said.

    Danny Gold

    A young boy wraps a flag with the face of imprisoned Kurdish guerrilla leader Abdullah Ocalan across his back at a Newroz festival in the Kurdish city of Batman in southeast Turkey.

    For Demirbas, the halting of violence is especially urgent. One son is about to join the Turkish military, as service is mandatory. Another went to the mountains to join the PKK four years ago. Every time he hears a Turkish military jet roar overhead, he fears it is on its way to kill his son. He says his heart is "crushed in three parts," one in the mountains, one in the military, and one in the jails with many of his colleagues and friends. 

    A day before Ocalan's announcement in Ali Pasa, a poor neighborhood whose narrow streets and strong PKK support usually deter police from entering, a group of tough looking young men loitered by a small park. Graffiti swearing allegiance to the PKK and "long live Apo" littered the walls. The young men said they would only believe Turkey wants peace when Apo is free.

    Teyfik Karakoc, 50, lingered outside a small shop nearby. He, like the others, has seen his share of suffering and is ready for it to be over.

    "Our hope is to stop the killing," Karakoc said. "All of us, like everyone, we want peace, but we don't see anything." He then paused as a Turkish military jet flied overhead, drowning out his words.

    "It is not so easy to say we forgive you," he added, as the jet disappeared.

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    This story was originally published on Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:29 AM EDT

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    Who cares if there is peace in Turkey, let them mind their business. A MUCH better question is, when is obama's socialist government going to end hostilities in Afghanistan and Iraq? Our men and women are being killed and maimed so that companies like BP and others can get a foothold in the regions  …

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  • 21
    Mar
    2013
    10:29am, EDT

    Jailed Kurdish rebel leader calls for cease-fire in Turkey

    "Let guns be silent and politics dominate" those are the words that could signal the end of the near 30-year campaign of violence by Kurdish PKK rebels in Turkey. Their leader, Abdullah Ocalan, has been in solitary confinement on an island off Istanbul since being captured in 1999. He has sent a message - read out to hundreds of thousands of Kurds gathered in south-east Turkey - urging them to lay down their arms and withdraw to Iraq. Jonathan Rugman Channel Four Europe reports.

    By Ayla Jean Yackley, Reuters

    DIYARBAKIR, Turkey -- Jailed Kurdish rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan ordered his fighters on Thursday to cease fire and withdraw from Turkish soil as a step to ending a conflict that has killed 40,000 people, riven the country and battered its economy.

    Hundreds of thousands of Kurds gathered in the regional center of Diyarbakir cheered and waved banners bearing Ocalan's moustachioed image when a statement by the rebel leader, held since 1999 on a prison island in the Marmara Sea, was read out by a Kurdish politician.

    "Let guns be silenced and politics dominate," he said to a sea of red-yellow-green Kurdish flags. "The stage has been reached where our armed forces should withdraw beyond the borders. ... It's not the end. It's the start of a new era."

    There was no immediate reaction from Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, who has taken considerable risks since elected in 2002, breaking taboos held by some in the conservative establishment, not least in the military, by extending cultural and language rights to Kurds.

    Two years ago, to the anger of hardliners, he countenanced secret talks with the PKK in Oslo.

    The fighters would withdraw to their bases in the mountains of northern Iraq, which they have used as a springboard for attacks on Turkish soil. The Turkish air force has on a number of occasions attacked the strongholds.

    Kurds celebrate Nowruz, the Persian New Year, and flash victory signs in the southern Turkish city of Diyarbakir on Thursday after jailed Kurdish rebel chief Abdullah Ocalan called for a cease-fire, telling militants to lay down their arms and withdraw from Turkish soil. His face is shown on the flag.

    'I remember peace'
    Ocalan's Kurdistan Workers Party -- better known as the PKK and regarded by Turkey, the United States and European Union as a terrorist organization -- launched its campaign in 1984, demanding an independent Kurdish state in the southeast of Turkey.

    But in recent years it has moderated its demands to political autonomy and broader cultural rights in an area where the Kurdish language was long formally banned.

    "There is a strategic shift happening," said Ertugrul Kurkcu, a parliamentarian from the pro-Kurdish BDP party. "The Kurdish liberation movement is moving from an armed campaign to a cultural one. And the PKK accepts this."

    The scenes in Diyarbakir, broadcast live on television, would have been unthinkable even months ago.

    Throughout the conflict, the insignia of the banned PKK has been strictly banned and any display would have resulted in arrest.

    "War happens, but at some point you have to dress your wounds. This is our chance now," said Bedri Alat, 73. "I remember peace. My grandson does not. He does not remember when Kurds and Turks lived as brothers. This is a last chance."

    Ocalan appears to have retained authority over his fighters in Turkey and in the mountains of northern Iraq where they will now gather. But there are still dangers of division over the terms of any deal.

    A settlement would lift a huge burden off Turkey, though it would be viewed with deep suspicion by hard-line nationalists who fear Kurds would resume a drive for independence and undermine the Turkish state.

    The war has drained state coffers, stunted development of the mainly Kurdish southeast and scarred the country's human rights record.

    A peace would bolster the NATO member's credibility as it seeks to extend influence across the Middle East, and remove a stumbling block from its path to join the European Union. 

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    What a statesman. No wonder no one overseas likes him.

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  • 19
    Mar
    2013
    10:24pm, EDT

    Double blasts shake Turkish capital

    By Parisa Hafezi and Mert Ozkan, Reuters

    Turkey's justice ministry and the offices of its ruling AK Party were attacked with homemade bombs and a flame thrower in the capital Ankara on Tuesday, days ahead of an expected ceasefire with Kurdish militants.

    The attack shattered windows on the seventh floor of the AK Party building, where Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan has an office, according to a Reuters cameraman, while two devices also exploded outside the justice ministry several miles away.

    Erdogan, who left Ankara earlier on Tuesday for an official visit to Denmark, had been briefed on the attacks, Interior Minister Muammer Guler told a hastily assembled news conference.

    "We cannot say who was behind these explosions for sure but we have some rough ideas ... they are enemies of democracy and their main target is democracy," he said.


    There was no immediate claim of responsibility. Kurdish militants, far-left groups, ultra-nationalists and Islamic radicals have all carried out attacks in Turkey in the past.

    The most recent bombing was by a member of the Revolutionary People's Liberation Party-Front (DHKP-C) leftist group who blew himself up at an entrance of the U.S. embassy on Feb. 1, killing a Turkish guard.

    Twelve people were detained in Istanbul early on Tuesday in an operation against the DHKP-C, listed by Turkey and the United States as a terrorist organisation. The group has carried out attacks in the past in retaliation for arrests of its members.

    Asked if the DHKP-C may have been responsible for Tuesday's blasts, Guler said: "Nothing is clear yet. We have some conjectures and will act when proven."

    Kurdish peace plan
    Tuesday's explosions occurred two days ahead of an expected ceasefire call by jailed Kurdish rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan, who has been in talks with state officials to try to end a three-decade conflict that has killed some 40,000 people.

    The ceasefire call, expected to coincide with the Kurdish New Year on Thursday, would be a major step in what is shaping up to be the most serious bid yet to end Turkey's conflict with the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) militants.

    AK Party spokesman Huseyn Celik said the attacks would not derail the peace process.

    "Our decisiveness will continue ... such turbulence cannot push us from our path," he told the news conference.

    The conflict with the PKK, considered a terrorist group by the United States and the European Union as well as Ankara, burns at Turkey's heart and there are forces on both sides that stand opposed to a resolution.

    Intelligence officers and Kurdish politicians have been speaking to PKK leader Ocalan since October, holding talks on his island prison off Istanbul where he has been held since 1999 in a effort to hammer out a peace deal.

    Ocalan is reviled by most Turks, many of whom hold him personally responsible for the conflict's high death toll, and the contacts have risked enraging Turkey's conservative establishment and nationalists.

    In a statement conveyed from his cell via a Kurdish politician, Ocalan said he would make a "historic" appeal on Thursday, raising expectations of a ceasefire.

    Such truces have been agreed and failed before in the war.

    The PKK originally demanded full independence for a Kurdish state in southeastern Turkey, but has moderated its goals to broader political and cultural autonomy.

    Erdogan has made a number of concessions on cultural and language rights as part of his efforts to forge a settlement.

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    Double blasts? Turkey? Is this the Turkey season?

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  • 27
    Feb
    2013
    6:12am, EST

    Reports: Kurdish militants consider plan to end near 30-year conflict in Turkey

    Ozan Kose / AFP - Getty Images

    Hundreds of Turkish nationalists march in Istanbul Sunday to protest at the resumption of peace talks with Kurd rebels.

    By Daren Butler, Reuters

    ISTANBUL — Jailed Kurdish militant leader Abdullah Ocalan envisages the withdrawal of his fighters from Turkey by August under a draft peace plan sent to his group's leadership and Kurdish politicians, media reports said Wednesday.

    Held in an island jail since his capture in 1999, Ocalan has been negotiating with Turkey's government since October over the outlines of a deal to end a conflict which has killed 40,000 people since his fighters took up arms in 1984.


    Under the plan — to which his Kurdistan Workers Party was expected to respond within two weeks — the rebels would begin a formal ceasefire on March 21, the Kurdish New Year, said the Sabah and Star newspapers, which are close to the government.

    They said the militants' withdrawal from Turkish territory was planned for completion by Aug. 15, the 29th anniversary of a conflict which has destabilized Turkey and held back development in its mainly Kurdish southeast.

    The accuracy of the reports could not immediately be confirmed.

    This timetable is dependent on Turkey passing reforms increasing the rights of a Kurdish minority numbering about 15 million - around 20 percent of Turkey's population of 76 million.

    The newspaper reports said Ocalan's plan proposed maintaining Turkey's unitary structure, with no demand for Kurdish autonomy.

    "Nobody should stand up and demand anything which is aimed at harming our national unity," Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan told reporters late Tuesday.

    "If they put down their weapons and leave our country there are many places in the world they can go," he said.

    Kurdish cultural rights boosted
    During his decade in power, Erdogan has pushed through reforms boosting Kurdish cultural rights but Kurdish politicians seek wider political reforms, including a new constitution boosting equality and increased Kurdish language education.

    The PKK took up arms in 1984 with the aim of carving out a Kurdish state, but subsequently moderated its goal to limited self-rule. It is designated a terrorist group by Turkey, the United States and European Union.

    The militants have pledged allegiance to Ocalan but voiced caution about the prospects of rapid progress towards a deal, criticizing continued military operations in southeast Turkey and northern Iraq, where thousands of the militants are based.

    Among initial steps proposed under the process, the PKK could release more than a dozen Turkish security forces personnel that it is holding captive.

    However, senior PKK commander Duran Kalkan said any such release would depend on what steps Turkey takes.

    "Nobody should expect this from us unilaterally," Kalkan said in an interview with the PKK-linked Firat news agency.

    In talks with Kurdish politicians at the weekend, Ocalan warned Turkey could become as troubled as Syria or Iraq if steps were not taken to end the insurgency.

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    Turkey and the Kurds have been allies with the United States for quite a while, especially Turkey. They deserve our respect and help in ending this conflict which damages the security of US. Insulting ALL Muslims for the horrible actions of a few also is damaging the US. It is like condemning all Te …

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  • 10
    Jan
    2013
    7:30am, EST

    Three women shot dead in 'politically motivated' Paris slayings

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    Members of France's Kurdish community gather on Thursday while two men, seen left, carry the body of one of the three women slain in Paris.

    By Nick Vinocur, Reuters

    PARIS - Three Kurdish women were shot dead in Paris in killings that appeared politically motivated, police and other sources said Thursday.

    The bodies of the women were found at the Information Center of Kurdistan, a police source said. The center has close links to Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).

    The Firat news agency, which is close to the PKK, said another victim was the Paris representative of the Brussels-based Kurdistan National Congress political group.

    "There is no doubt this was politically motivated," center employee Berivan Akyol told French broadcaster iTele. 

    The PKK has waged a 28-year insurgency against the Turkish state in which more than 40,000 people are estimated to have been killed.

    The Turkish government has recently acknowledged holding talks with the organization's jailed leader, Abdullah Ocalan.

    They have agreed a framework for a peace plan, according to Turkish media reports.

    'Executed'
    Firat reported that two of those killed were shot in the head and one in the stomach, and that the murder weapon was believed to have been fitted with a silencer.

    "A couple of colleagues saw blood stains at the door. When they broke the door open and entered they saw the three women had been executed," French Kurdish Associations Federation Chairman Mehmet Ulker was quoted as saying by Firat.

    Turkish broadcasters cited police as saying the women had links to the PKK.

    The PKK is designated a terrorist group the United States, Turkey and European Union.

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  • 29
    Oct
    2012
    6:22am, EDT

    After decades of oppression, Kurds get taste of freedom as Assad's troops flee

    Danny Gold

    A new member of the Kurds' Popular Protection Units (YPG) stands in front of a crowd waving Kurdish flags in Qamishli, Syria. The Kurds are the largest ethnic group in the world without a homeland, totaling more than 30 million people.

    By Danny Gold

    DERIK, Syria -- From the roof of the new home he is building on the outskirts of the Kurdish controlled city of Derik in northeast Syria, Bashir Said Mohammad can count a dozen or so other structures in different stages of completion. "All this building has happened after the revolution," he says. "Before we were not able to build. You would go to the regime and they would say no, because we are in the Kurdish areas."

    In the Kurdish areas of Syria, known as Rojava, people have wasted little time seizing on the opportunities a tentative retreat by President Bashar Assad's government forces three months ago has afforded them. But while a burgeoning civil society independent of Assad's regime continues to grow, the Kurds are desperately trying to avoid the devastating violence that has battered cities like Aleppo and Homs.

    The Kurds are the largest ethnic group in the world without a homeland, totaling more than 30 million people. Spread out between parts of Iraq, Syria, Iran and Turkey, they have been subjected to decades of oppression aimed at erasing their cultural identity in all four regions. Kurds make up around 10 percent of the population in Syria, totaling about 2 million, but have been treated as second-class citizens for generations.


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    In July, Assad forces made a hasty retreat from a number of Kurdish cities and towns in northeastern Syria. Despite a few skirmishes, the situation has remained relatively peaceful.

    Though prices have risen, Derik's cafes are still full and people linger in the streets with little fear. Kurdish flags now fly from shops and houses, Kurdish police forces known as Asayish patrol the streets and community organizations known as People's Houses, "mala gels" in Kurdish, have been set up to solve disputes and act as de facto government institutions.

    The Kurdish language, which as little as two years ago was forbidden, is now taught in state schools. Delkesh Resol, a 22-year-old former door-to-door salesman, was preparing one recent Sunday morning to teach a Kurdish language lesson to high school students despite a warning from the regime that language classes were to have stopped the previous Thursday.

    'Studying in secret'
    His act of defiance, which prior to the revolution would have led to a prison sentence and possible torture, did not concern him. "I'm not worried, there is no fear when you're doing something from your heart," Resol said. "Before this we knew there would come a day when we could do this (teach Kurdish in the schools), so we were studying in secret. If we need to teach Kurdish in the streets, we will."

    Danny Gold

    High school students in a classroom in Derik, Syria, listen to a teacher giving Kurdish lessons. Teaching the Kurdish language was previously forbidden.

    The mala gel in Derik is made up of 40 members, and resolves disputes on everything from agriculture to the distribution of donations received from Kurds in Iraq. There is even a member who specializes in divorces. Additional "houses," such as the Women's House and the Youth House, handle more specialized disputes.

    Despite Resol's confidence, it is still necessary to be wary of Assad Mukhabarat, or secret police, in Derik. Though the city is described as liberated, plainclothes intelligence officers still lurk the streets. Just exactly who is in power, and how much power they have, is vague.

    The lack of heavy conflict and continued presence of Assad men in some of the cities have led to accusations that the Kurdish leadership arranged a secret deal with the regime, where they were allowed to take over certain areas in exchange for not forcing a third front. Others have argued that the Kurds are simply acting practically.

    "The regime has not subjected the Kurdish regions to the same level of violence that it has directed against other parts of Syria," said Thomas McGee, a researcher on Syrian Kurds at Britain's University of Exeter, who spent two years living in the region and was there for the first eight months of the revolution. "Kurds have not gone out of their way to bring this upon themselves, learning from the regime's brutal reaction to the 2004 Kurdish uprising."  In 2004, Kurdish protests that began at a soccer game led to an assault by regime forces that ended with over 30 Kurdish citizens killed.

    "The fact that neither the regime nor Kurds en masse have actively declared war on the other need not mean that there is collusion. Each side has their interests and is pursuing this," McGee added. "Kurds, for their part seek stability and wish to avoid escalation."

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    Both sides in the Kurdish areas walk a tenuous line, in some areas existing side-by-side while trying to avoid direct conflict that seems inevitable. Regime buildings are still occupied by officials, but the people inside are said to be powerless. In Derik -- which is 90 percent Kurdish -- the mala gel is housed in a building formerly used by a youth committee of Assad's ruling Baath party. It is now adorned with photos of Syrian Kurdish martyrs and Abdullah Ocalan, the leader of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) who is jailed in Turkey. According to the State Department, "PKK terrorist activity has been responsible for the deaths of more than 30,000 Turkish citizens."

    It is also next door to a local headquarters for the Baath party, where spray-painted photos of Assad family members dot the perimeter walls. In other parts of the city, these images have been defaced, as have representations of the Syrian flag.

    The small city of Girke Lege, another liberated Kurdish area, lies adjacent to the oil city of Rmeilan, which is heavily fortified with Assad troops. A large Kurdish flag welcomes visitors to the city, but after a ten-minute drive down the road, an Assad flag waves above a fortress-like encampment.

    'It feels like a new place'
    Kana Berakat, 43, a member of the People's House in Girke Lege, recalls the two times he was imprisoned for Kurdish rights activism. At Aleppo University in 1990, he tried to organize a Newroz celebration and spent 70 days in jail. In 2009, he spent a week in jail after attending a Kurdish rights demonstration. That time, Berakat was arrested because he did not have identification papers. Berakat is one of hundreds of thousands of Kurds in Syria who had their citizenship removed in 1962 and are currently stateless.

    "It feels like a new place. Before when I went shopping to get tomatoes, I was very afraid," he said. "I thought the regime would take me. Now I walk around not worried, like I am a free man, but I am worried for the future."

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    Berakat, though enjoying his newfound freedom, is concerned that as the regime continues to falter, it may one day grow desperate and unleash the troops next door. By then, though, he hopes the Kurdish militia will be strong enough to defend the Kurdish people.

    Danny Gold

    Bashir Said Mohammad surveys construction on a new home he began building in Derik, Syria, after the revolution started. He had been previously been denied permission because he is a Kurd.

    The Kurds' Popular Protection Units (YPG) patrol the borders and act as a deterrent to both Assad forces and the rebel Free Syrian Army. Established by the Democratic Union Party (PYD), the most powerful Syrian Kurdish political group, the YPG is now distancing itself and trying to be seen as the universal defenders of the Syrian Kurds instead of the party's military wing.

    Videos of YPG forces training have shown a noticeable lack of heavily artillery, but the troop numbers are said to be growing every day. The formation of a fourth brigade was just announced.

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    The YPG has not hesitated to attack the regime if provoked, and has sought to prevent both the FSA and the regime from entering Kurdish neighborhoods in more contested areas like Kobane and Efrin. After a Kurdish neighborhood in Aleppo was bombed in late July resulting in the death of 21 civilians, YPG forces killed three regime soldiers and captured a number of others.

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    Last week, Assad's forces bombed a Kurdish area in Aleppo. The FSA and the YPG also clashed, reportedly leaving about 20 fighters dead.

    At a recent demonstration in the city of Qamishli, 50 or so new recruits lined up for military exercises. They stood silently, faces covered in scarves as to obscure their identities and surrounded by a crowd of thousands chanting slogans of support. Old women clad in hijabs and young girls in Western-style clothing waved flags, singing and dancing to songs of Kurdish freedom.

    The demonstration came a few days after a car bomb exploded outside an Assad base in the city, killing four soldiers. The bombing was later claimed by Jabhat Al-Nusra, a shadowy jihadist organization with ties to al-Qaida that is fighting against the regime. The night before had seen a gunbattle at the airport between the FSA and the regime. These incidents heightened fears that the war was encroaching into Kurdish territory.

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    Some Kurds believe the FSA means to lure the Kurds further into the conflict, forcing Assad to open up another front and possibly using the Kurdish issue to persuade Turkey to further involve itself. Others think that the regime will grow weary of the Kurdish push for more rights and eventual autonomy, and look to reassert control.

    Turkey has leveled accusations that the PYD is simply a front for the Kurdistan Worker's Party (PKK), which has been engaged in a guerrilla war against the Turkish government for 30 years. Turkey has threatened to invade the Kurdish areas to root them out. PYD categorically denies that it is simply a front for the PKK, saying that they share ideology but do not take orders.

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    Saleh Muslim Mohammed, the leader of the PYD, also expressed fear of the Islamist brigades and extremists said to be fighting alongside the FSA.

    For now, the Kurds appear intent on staving off escalating conflict while attempting to build up enough strength to protect their newfound rights and eventually obtain a level of freedom that has eluded them in Syria.

    "Violence is the last choice, but if anything happens here the YPG will answer," said Mohammed Saeed, a PYD official in Derik. "Every family here has weapons. All the Kurdish, not only the YPG, will defend themselves. Without Kurdish rights, there will be no stability."

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    I disagree that "religion poisons everything". That is just an excuse for lunatics. Religion itself doesn't "do" anything. It's people that pervert it and use it to justify terrible actions. PEOPLE are the problem...not religion.

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    2011
    11:38am, EST

    Funerals held for 35 civilians killed in Turkish air strikes

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    Kurds carry the coffins of victims of a Turkish air raid, outside Uludere Hospital in Uludere, Sirnak province, on Dec. 30. The weeping mourners accompanied the coffins to the cemetery in Gulyazi village, near the Iraqi border, from the nearby town of Uludere where a service was held at the mosque.

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    Women mourn for victims of a Turkish air raid, at the cemetery of Gulyazi Village, Sirnak province, near the Iraqi border, on Dec. 30. Thousands of Kurds buried 35 civilians killed in a Turkish air raid and branded Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan a murderer.

     AP reports:

    Thousands of mourners gathered in southeast Turkey on Friday for the funerals of 35 Kurdish civilians who were killed in a botched raid by Turkish military jets that mistook the group for Kurdish rebels based in Iraq.

    Turkish television footage showed people, many weeping and lamenting the dead, as they gathered after the air strikes Wednesday that killed a group of smugglers along the border, one of the deadliest episodes in the conflict between the Turkish state and Kurdish rebels who took up arms in 1984. Continue reading...

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    LOKI? brother, ya need to stay on them meds regular or they don't work.

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  • 29
    Dec
    2011
    5:34am, EST

    Turkish airstrike aimed at militants kills 35 Kurdish villagers

    Protesters take to the streets of Istanbul in response to the military airstrike that killed 35 people. Msnbc.com's Dara Brown reports.

    By msnbc.com staff and news services

    Updated at 9:45 a.m. ET

    DIYARBAKIR, Turkey - Turkish warplanes launched airstrikes against suspected Kurdish militants in northern Iraq near the Turkish border overnight, the military said on Thursday, but local officials said the attack killed 35 smugglers who were mistaken for guerrillas.

    The Turkish military confirmed it had launched the strikes after unmanned drones spotted suspected rebels of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), but said there were no civilians in the area and it was investigating the incident.


    The attack, which Turkey's largest pro-Kurdish party called a "crime against humanity," sparked clashes between hundreds of stone-throwing protesters and police in Diyarbakir, the largest city in Turkey's restive mainly Kurdish southeast.

    Police responded by firing water cannon and tear gas at the demonstrators. Seven people were detained. One police officer was hurt after being hit by a stone, witnesses said.

    Story: 'Pushed aside': Turkey's Kurds lose hope

    "We have 30 corpses, all of them are burned. The state knew that these people were smuggling in the region. This kind of incident is unacceptable. They were hit from the air," said Fehmi Yaman, mayor of Uludere in Sirnak province.

    The Sirnak governor's office said 35 people had been killed and one wounded during an operation near the border with Uludere district.

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    Locals gather in front of a truck carrying the bodies of people who were killed in a warplane attack in the Ortasu village of Uludere, in Turkey's Sirnak province on Thursday.

    Local villagers said the smugglers were carrying drums of diesel on mules and tractors, according to the Turkish Hurriyet Daily News. The diesel drums exploded in the airstrike and burned them to death, they said.

    'This is a massacre'
    The pro-Kurdish Peace and Democracy Party (BDP) said party leaders were heading for the area and that it would hold demonstrations in Istanbul and elsewhere to protest the deaths.

    "This is a massacre," BDP Deputy Chairwoman Gultan Kisanak told a news conference in Diyarbakir.

    "This country's warplanes bombed a group of 50 of its citizens to destroy them. This is a war crime and a crime against humanity," she said.

    The Turkish military said it had learned the PKK had sent many militants to the Sinat-Haftanin area, where the strikes occurred in northern Iraq, to retaliate after recent militant losses in clashes.

    "It was established from unmanned aerial vehicle images that a group was within Iraq heading towards our border," it said.

    "Given that the area in which the group was spotted is often used by terrorists and that it was moving towards our border at night, it was deemed necessary for our air force planes to attack and they struck the target at 21:37-22:24 (2:37-8:24 p.m. ET)," it said.

    "The place where the incident occurred is the Sinat-Haftanin area in northern Iraq where there is no civilian settlement and where the main camps of the separatist terrorist group are located," it said.

    The military added that an investigation was in progress, without referring to any deaths in the strikes.

    The Turkish government, which has been battling the PKK since the group took up arms in 1984 to fight for an ethnic Kurdish homeland, was not immediately available for comment.

    The incident threatens to spoil efforts to forge Turkish-Kurdish consensus for a planned new constitution that is expected to address the issue of Kurdish rights.

    Smugglers or militants?
    Smuggling is an important source of income for locals in provinces along the Iraqi border, with many villagers involved in bringing fuel, cigarettes and other goods from Iraqi villages on the other side of the border.

    PKK militants also cross the border in these areas.

    "There were rumors that the PKK would cross through this region. Images were recorded of a crowd crossing last night, hence an operation was carried out," a Turkish security official said.

    "We could not have known whether these people were (PKK) group members or smugglers," he said.

    Television images showed a line of corpses covered by blankets on a barren hillside, with a crowd of people gathered around, some with their head in their hands and crying.

    Donkeys carried corpses down the hillside to be loaded into vehicles and taken to hospital.

    Security sources said those killed were carrying canisters of diesel on mules and their bodies were found on the Iraqi side of the border.

    They said the dead were from Uludere on the Turkish side of the border on what was a regular smuggling route.

    The Firat news agency, which has close ties to the PKK, said that 17 people were still believed to be missing. It said those killed were aged around 17-20.

    In northern Iraq, PKK spokesman Ahmet Deniz condemned the strike and said F-16 jets had bombed a group of around 50 people taking goods across the border and that 19 people were missing.

    The PKK, regarded as a terrorist organization by Turkey, the European Union and the United States, launches attacks on Turkish forces in southeastern Turkey from hideouts inside the remote Iraqi mountains.

    Turkish leaders vowed revenge in October with air and ground strikes after the PKK killed 24 Turkish soldiers in one of the deadliest attacks since the PKK took up arms in 1984 in a conflict in which more than 40,000 people have been killed.

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    Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    Turkey has no love for the Kurdish people, just like Saddamn. Doesn't sound like Turkey is very interested who was killed. Very sad for the Kurds. "We could not have known whether these people were (PKK) group members or smugglers," he said

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