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  • 22
    May
    2013
    8:39pm, EDT

    In first public acknowledgement, Holder says 4 Americans died in US drone strikes

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    Attorney General Eric Holder testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 6.

    By Michael Isikoff, National Investigative Correspondent, NBC News

    The Obama administration publicly acknowledged for the first time Wednesday that U.S. drone strikes have killed four American citizens since 2009, including the previously undisclosed death of a North Carolina resident who left the United States for Pakistan and was later indicted on federal terrorism charges.


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    Attorney General Eric Holder, in a letter to congressional leaders and chairman of key congressional committees made public on the eve of what was billed as a major counterterrorism speech by President Barack Obama, also confirmed the deaths in drone attacks in Yemen of three other Americans that already had been widely reported: those of radical cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki , his teenage son, Abd al-Rahmn Anwar al-Awlaki; and Samir Khan, the American who ran al Qaeda’s web-based propaganda magazine Inspire.  Previously the Obama administration had only acknowledged the senior Awlaki’s killing and refused to publicly confirm or deny reports of the other deaths.

    The letter also confirmed that U.S. drones had killed Jude Kenan Mohammed of Raleigh, N.C., more than a  year after a local news report quoted a friend as saying he had died in an attack in Pakistan in November 2011.

    Holder said in the letter that the senior Awlaki was the only U.S. citizen targeted in a drone strike.

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    Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S.-born Yemeni cleric and recruiter for al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula in Yemen, is shown in an October 2008 file photo.

    He also provided new details about what the U.S. says were Awlaki's operational roles in terror plots, including his role in a 2010 attempt to bomb cargo planes by putting bombs in printer cartridges.

    It also included an explicit explanation of the U.S. policy for targeted killings of Americans, much of which was included in a “white paper” obtained by NBC News in February.

    Mohammed’s death appears to have been news to the FBI, which as of Thursday still listed him on its “most wanted” list, saying, “On July 22, 2009, a federal grand jury in North Carolina indicted Jude Kenan Mohammad for conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists and conspiracy to murder, kidnap, maim, and injure persons in a foreign country. Mohammad is at large … (and) is believed to be in Pakistan.”

    A law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity told NBC News: “We don’t know when he was killed. That fact was classified.”

    FBI spokeswoman Shelley Lynch said in an email: "Jude Kenan Mohammed remained wanted until there was official confirmation of death.  Until now, the matter was classified and it is now appropriate for the wanted poster to be removed from our website." 

    Obama is expected to discuss the drone program Thursday in a speech at the National Defense University in Washington, D.C.

    Release of Holder’s letter came as classified documents obtained by NBC News raised new questions about the CIA-run drone program and whether it is consistent with public comments by Obama and other administration officials describing  the strikes as “very precise” and targeted at specific al Qaeda operatives and their associates. In fact, the documents show, the agency has frequently attacked low-level militants and foreign fighters in Pakistan whose names and nationalities were not known, as well as militant groups not directly connected to al Qaeda.

    The documents, similar to those recently reported by McClatchy Newspapers, offer a window into the secretive drone program and how its actual operations sometimes differ from the public accounts provided by the administration.

    They appear to officially confirm that the agency has engaged in “signature strikes” – a much discussed and controversial practice that has never been publicly acknowledged -- in which CIA drone operators target individuals based on the “signature characteristics” of suspects but whose actual identities are not clear.

    They surface at a time that U.S officials appear to be scaling back the drone program – amid warnings from some  former military and intelligence officials that the attacks may be creating a backlash harmful to U.S. interests in the long run.

     When Obama was asked about the drone program last year during a Google News forum, he called it “a targeted, focused effort at people who are on a list of active terrorists.” In an April 2012 speech, then White House counter-terrorism adviser and now CIA Director John Brennan said: “The United States Government conducts targeted strikes against specific al Qaeda terrorists,” while acknowledging that drone targets included “associated forces.”

    But a CIA list of 53 drone strikes in the fall of 2010 indicates that fewer than half – 22 -- listed al Qaeda operatives as the targets. Other strikes were aimed at targets that included suspected members of the militant al-Haqqani network in Pakistan, which is believed to have harbored and worked with al Qaeda; members of the Pakistani Taliban, an Islamic fundamentalist military group that aims to overthrow the Pakistani government; and members of another Pakistani terrorist network identified as the “Commander Nazir Group.”  Fourteen of the strikes listed the targets only as “other militants.”

    Agency lists for other periods show a higher proportion of strikes being specifically aimed at Al Qaeda operatives. For example, during a nine month period between January and September 2011, 28 out of 42 strikes listed al Qaeda members as targets.

    But in other accounts of the strikes, agency officials refer to the targeting of individuals whose identifies do not appear to be known. One 2009 attack was described as being aimed at “military aged males”  at a site “associated with al Qaeda explosives training.” Another, in 2010, described the target as “four adult males conducting weapons training.”

    The CIA and White House did not respond to requests for comment about the documents. But U.S. officials have vigorously defended the drone program and their public accounts of it, while saying they are limited in what they can say because of its classified nature and the potential impacts of full public disclosure in Pakistan. As for the use of signature strikes , they have argued that “when you have a bunch of guys building explosives, you don’t need to know who they are. They are an imminent threat.”

    NBC News’ Pete Williams, Chuck Todd and Tom Curry contributed to this report.

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    They converted to terrorists and went to their $hitholes overseas to wage Jihad. I would say nice shooting from McDill and reload for some more..........

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  • 15
    Nov
    2012
    9:54am, EST

    Greek protesters pelt German diplomat with water bottles, coffee

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    A protester, not seen, throws a coffee at German consul Wolfgang Hoelscher-Obermaier, with the blue shirt, in Thessaloniki Thursday.

    By Reuters

    ATHENS - Public sector workers stormed a building where Greek and German officials were meeting in the northern city of Thessaloniki Thursday and pelted a German diplomat with water bottles in a protest over austerity measures.

    Riot police used teargas and truncheons to break up a crowd of 250 city employees outside the building and formed a shield around German Consul Wolfgang Hoelscher-Obermaier as he entered.

    Photographs also showed coffee being thrown over Hoelscher-Obermaier.


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    Protesters chanted "It's now or never!" and held up mock gravestones and banners proclaiming "Fight until the end!"

    They said they were furious at comments by German envoy Hans-Joachim Fuchtel, who told journalists on Wednesday that Greece could do more to reform its bloated local government sector, the head of the workers' union said.

    "Experts say that as far as local government is concerned the work carried out by 3,000 Greek employees can be done by 1,000 Germans," Fuchtel said. On Thursday, he said his remarks had been misinterpreted.

    Anger and sometimes violent protests have been staged across Europe against unemployment and austerity measures.  ITN's Emma Murphy reports. 

    Violence breaks out amid austerity protests in Europe

    Fuchtel was appointed by German Chancellor Angela Merkel late last year to explore ways to boost grassroots cooperation between the two countries, and has been lampooned as overbearing in Greek media.

    His comments struck a nerve in Greece at a time when its lenders, the European Union and International Monetary Fund, have demanded layoffs and steep spending cuts in exchange for a second $165 billion bailout.

    More photos: Demonstrations across Europe over austerity measures

    At the Thessaloniki city hall, a woman who answered the switchboard phone said: "No one can talk to you now. They have occupied the building."

    A spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry said: "No one was hurt and there was no material damage. The meeting continues as planned and that's what's important."

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    Municipal employees have held several nationwide protests and strikes in recent weeks against the new wave of budget cuts, triggering severe disruptions in public transport and causing garbage to pile up across the capital.

    The head of the POE-OTA union of municipal workers, Themis Balasopoulos, said Fuchtel's comments showed the government planned to push ahead with controversial public sector layoffs, about 2,000 of which are scheduled by the end of the year.

    Read more coverage from NBC News about Europe's austerity troubles

    Unions and some politicians oppose the layoffs, which are mainly expected to target local government workers.

    "We are here to express our deep anger at his absurd comments," Balasopoulos told Reuters from the protest in Thessaloniki.

    "We are not a democracy -- we are under German supervision. If we had decent politicians they would have put him on a plane last night and sent him back home," he said.

    Many Greeks, worn down by years of austerity, blame Merkel for forcing the painful cuts in exchange for the bailouts.

    In Germany, media have long characterized the Mediterranean state's 11 million people as lazy, corrupt and ungrateful.

    Tens of thousands of Greeks protested against a visit by Merkel to Athens in October and some burned Nazi flags. 

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    Apparently these Greek public sector workers have never heard the adage, "Don't bite the hand that feeds you."

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  • 14
    Nov
    2012
    6:59am, EST

    Violence breaks out amid austerity protests in Europe

    Anger and sometimes violent protests have been staged across Europe against unemployment and austerity measures.  ITN's Emma Murphy reports. 


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    By NBC News staff and wire reports

    Updated at 9:05 a.m. ET: Pockets of violence broke out as public demonstrations and strikes over rising unemployment and austerity measures took place in many parts of Europe Wednesday.

    Spanish and Portuguese workers staged a coordinated general strike across the Iberian Peninsula, shutting transport, grounding flights and closing schools to protest against spending cuts and tax hikes.

    International rail services were disrupted by strikes in Belgium and workers in Greece, Italy and France planned work stoppages or demonstrations as part of a "European Day of Action and Solidarity.”

    Hundreds of flights -- including those between southern Europe and connection hubs such as London Heathrow, Paris Charles de Gaulle and Amsterdam Schiphol -- were also canceled.

    NOVEMBER 7: Greece's government has approved another round of deep cuts to spending, wages and pensions, which sparked fierce clashes between police and protesters. ITV's James Mates reports.

    More than 60 people were arrested in Spain and 34 injured, 18 of them security officials after scuffles at picket lines and damage to storefronts, Reuters reported. Riot police arrested at least two protesters in Madrid and hit others with batons, witnesses said.

    Protesters jammed cash machines with glue and coins and plastered anti-government stickers on shop windows. Power consumption dropped 16 percent with factories idled.

    More photos: Demonstrations across Europe over austerity measures

    In Italy, students pelted police with rocks in a protest in Rome over money-saving plans for the school system. The windows of a bank in Milan were reportedly smashed by protesting students, according to a report on the website of the U.K.’s Guardian newspaper.

    In Greece, state workers, holding banners reading "Enough is Enough," started rallying on several squares in central Athens on Wednesday morning.

    See more coverage of this story at ITV News

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    A passenger waits on an empty platform at the Thalys high-speed train terminal at Brussels Midi/Zuid rail station amid strikes across Europe Wednesday.

    The international coordination shows "we are looking at a historic moment in the European Union movement," said Fernando Toxo, head of Spain's biggest union, Comisiones Obreras.

    Spain, where one in four workers is unemployed, is now teetering on the brink of calling for a bailout from the European Union, with Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy trying to put off a rescue that could require even more EU-mandated budget cuts.

    Passion has been further inflamed since last week when a Spanish woman jumped from her apartment to her death as bailiffs tried to evict her when her bank foreclosed on a loan. Spaniards are furious at banks being rescued with public cash while ordinary people suffer.

    SEPTEMBER: Day two of demonstrations in Madrid as protesters clash with police outside parliament over new austerity measures. NBCNews.com's Dara Brown reports.

    "We're going to protest because they're ignoring people's rights. People are being evicted and they're raising our taxes," said Sandra Gonzalez, 19, a social work student at Madrid's Complutense University who plans to march with friends.

    ITV News reporter James Mates posted a picture on Twitter of a deserted station in central Madrid.

    Madrid's main station completely deserted at height of rush hour this morning. Nothing moving #GeneralStrike twitter.com/jamesmatesitv/������¢���¯���¿���½������¦

    — James Mates (@jamesmatesitv) November 14, 2012

    In Portugal, which accepted an EU bailout last year, the streets have been quieter so far, but public and political opposition to austerity is mounting, threatening to derail new measures sought by Prime Minister Pedro Passos Coelho. His policies were held up this week as a model by Germany's Angela Merkel, a hate figure in crisis-hit southern European countries.

    A strike organized by CGTP in March had little impact, but in September hundreds of thousands of Portuguese rallied against a government plan to raise workers' social security contributions.

    "The first-ever Iberian strike" would be "a great signal of discontent and also a warning to European authorities," said Armenio Carlos, head of Portugal's CGTP union which is organizing the action there.

    Unions have planned rallies and marches in cities throughout both countries, with a major demonstration beginning at 6:30 p.m. (12:30 p.m. ET) in Madrid.

    Some 5 million people, or 22 percent of the workforce, are union members in Spain. In Portugal about one fourth of the 5.5 million-strong workforce is unionized.

    "This austerity is a never-ending story. We see no light at the end of the end of the tunnel, just more pain and difficulties. We have to protest, do something to stop it," said Lisbon pensioner Jose Marques, who planned to march Wednesday.

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    Demonstrators march in Rome, Italy, as protests and strikes over austerity measures were held by people across Europe Wednesday.

    ITV News is the U.K. partner of NBC News. Reuters contributed to this report.

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    "This austerity is a never-ending story. We see no light at the end of the end of the tunnel, just more pain and difficulties. We have to protest, do something to stop it," said Lisbon pensioner Jose Marques, who planned to march Wednesday.

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  • 24
    Aug
    2012
    7:57am, EDT

    Israeli protesters warn against war as government appears to prep Iran strikes

    Yara Borgal / NBC News

    Around 100 people demonstrated against a war with Iran in Tel Aviv on Thursday.

    By Yara Borgal, NBC News

    TEL AVIV, Israel -- A persistent group of anti-war protesters gathered in front Israel's Ministry of Defense in Central Tel Aviv on Thursday, chanting "We don't want another war!" and warning the government against striking Iran's nuclear facilities.

    Around 100 demonstrators carried signs declaring "No War" and "Don't bomb, talk!" Some lay on the ground and wrapped themselves in white sheets to simulate war casualties.



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    The demonstration, along with parallel actions in Haifa and Jerusalem, marked the latest in a string of growing anti-war protests that has revealed a deep unease many in Israel feel about a strike on Iran, despite Tehran's pursuit of nuclear technology. 

    According to reports, Iran has installed many more uranium enrichment machines in an underground bunker, potentially paving the way for a significant expansion of work the West fears is ultimately aimed at making nuclear bombs.

    NYT: UN chief heading to Iran despite US objections

    While Tehran insists its nuclear program has peaceful aims, Israel sees the the work as a serious threat to its very existence. Israel has said it would take unilateral military action against Iran if the international community fails to stop any development of nuclear weapons. It is also widely assumed that Israel has nuclear weapons although it has never openly admitted to it.

    New Iranian missiles have been put on display in Tehran - an exhibition that appears to be a warning to Israel. President Ahmadinejad says the short range missiles are meant for defense, not attack. But in Israel people are watching warily. NBC's John Ray reports.

    According to insiders, the United States and other Western countries have told Israel that there is still time for diplomacy, and have urged the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to give sanctions and diplomatic pressure time to work.

    Most oppose airstrikes
    The protesters on Thursday said they were not blind to the threat Iran posed, but said violence was not the way to diffuse tensions.

    "A military attack will not annihilate the Iranian nuclear problem. It will only delay it," Sharon Dolev, the director of the Israeli Disarmament Movement and one of the protest organizers, told NBC News.

    Another protester, Naor Kapulnik, said he believes the nuclear problem in the Middle East originated in Israel.

    "This is a war Israel has been planning for years to maintain their monopoly on nuclear weapons in the Middle East," he said. "They say that this is the way to protect and bring security to the Israeli Jewish citizens but I think that this is the exact opposite since Israel were the first to get nuclear weapons in the Middle East."

    Kapulnik, Dolev and other protesters are not alone: According to the latest poll released by the independent think tank, Israel Democracy Institute, over 60 percent of Jewish Israelis oppose a strike on Iran.

    Ex-Israeli intel chief speaks out on Iran strikes

    The demonstrators also said they did not believe defense ministry estimates of the number of civilians who would be killed if war does break out. Officials have said that in the case of a war with Iran and Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah, some 200 Israeli civilians would die. If Syria joined forces with its regional allies, fatalities could rise to 300, according to the defense ministry. 

    "This is a very ridiculous thing to say. This is just one example of how they view the price of the war," Kapulnik, the demonstrator, said.  

    "Who will suffer the price? It's not going to (Defense Minister Ehud Barak); it will be the ordinary people walking on the streets. One civilian dead is one too many," he added.

    'Determined to attack Iran'
    Nevertheless, some members of the political establishment appear intent on a violent confrontation with Iran. 

    Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the U.S. presidential elections in November," Alon Ben David, the military correspondent for Israel's Channel 10 News, told NBC News.  

    Not only that, President Obama would have no choice but to back the Israeli strike, he said.

    According to an Israeli TV news channel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu aims to strike Iran's nuclear facilities in the fall before the U.S. election, which would send oil soaring. Walter Zimmermann, United-ICAP, and John Kilduff, Again Capital, weigh in.

    Dov Khenin, a member of Israel's Knesset for the Hadash party and a fixture of social justice and anti-war rallies in Tel Aviv, participated in the demonstration.

    Israeli rhetoric on Iran strike heats up 

    "I am here to protest against all the threats and ideas that a preemptive strike on Iran can be seen as some sort of solution to the problems we have here in the Middle East," he said. "Such a strike will cause a devastating regional war that can create havoc both here in Israel and the region around us."

    Other prominent figures inside the Israeli establishment have expressed their opposition to an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, including President Shimon Peres, former Director of Mossad Meir Dagan and opposition leader Shaul Mofaz.

    But despite the voices calling for caution on many levels of Israeli society, it is the government that will vote on the strike -- and according to journalist Ben David, Natanyahu it has an "almost guaranteed" majority there.

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    Some of the protesters in Tel Aviv lay on the ground and wrapped themselves in white sheets to simulate war casualties.

    Netanyahu's government recently persuaded Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who previously objected to attacking Iran, to support such a move. Netanyahu also reportedly dispatched a senior official to update Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the elderly spiritual leader of the Shas ulta-orthodox coalition party, on the Iranian nuclear program in an attempt to win over Shas ministers' support for an attack.

    On Friday Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported that Israel's security cabinet -- the body within the government responsible for diplomatic negotiations and decisions in times of crisis -- is currently split evenly six to six on whether to bomb Iran. According to the paper, Netanyahu would almost certainly be able to garner a majority in support of such a move. 

    Despite these behind-the-scenes moves, Dolev and other protesters insisted on having their voices heard. 

    "There are other options that (the government) should put on the table if they are sincere. The option is talks," she said. 

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    My heart goes out to these brave people. Israel and US are the biggest warmongers in the world.

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  • 22
    Aug
    2012
    1:24pm, EDT

    Not so fast: Ex-Israeli intelligence chief speaks out on Iran strikes

    New Iranian missiles have been put on display in Tehran - an exhibition that appears to be a warning to Israel. President Ahmadinejad says the short range missiles are meant for defense, not attack. But in Israel people are watching warily. NBC's John Ray reports.

     

    By John Ray, NBC News

    TEL AVIV, Israel - A cavernous space has been carved out of the ground two floors below street level.

    Overhead, it's another scorching summer's day in Tel Aviv, Israel's biggest and busiest city.

    Down here, under the neon lights, a massive, blast proof steel door swings open to reveal a hidden realm.

    Locked away from today's bright sunlight, it feels like a gloomy and surreal underworld.

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    Asaf Zamir, deputy mayor of Tel Aviv, shows off one of the city's newest bomb-shelters.


    However, it is all too real.

    "This is one our newest bomb-shelters," Asaf Zamir, deputy mayor of the city told me as he showed off, with no little pride, the facilities. "Here there's space for 400 people."

    There are, he said, 241 public shelters in the city. This, like another 110, are protection against the threat of chemical attack.

    "There's air conditioning, toilets and water.  And two showers.  I think the (lines) might be long," Zamir joked.

    But this is deadly serious: In the event of war, Tel Aviv would be high on the list of targets of Israel's enemies.

    Israeli rhetoric on Iran strike heats up 

    While Israel is a country that is permanently on a war footing, there is an added sense of urgency here this summer. And in many minds, a sense of inevitability about war with Iran amid Tehran's continued refusal to be more transparent about its nuclear activity and growing speculation that Israel will bomb in response.   


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    An intense debate on a possible war has played out, both on and off the record, in Israel's news media.

    Wade through the oceans of words written and spoken and a single, simple narrative emerges time and again.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak are all but convinced that the only way to stop Iran's progress towards nuclear weapons is to launch air-strikes on their research centers.

    Against them are ranged the top ranks of Israel's defense and intelligence establishment.  And their voices urge caution.

    According to an Israeli TV news channel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu aims to strike Iran's nuclear facilities in the fall before the U.S. election, which would send oil soaring.

    Among them, Maj. Gen. Aharon Zeevi Farkash, until 2006, chief of military intelligence.

    Now in retirement, he remains, it seems, in touch with the top level debate raging behind closed doors.

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    Major General Aharon Zeevi Farkash was Israel's chief of military intelligence until 2006.

    Zeevi Farkash granted us a rare interview. He said he chose to speak out because he was concerned that Israel might be about to make a costly mistake.

    "I worry about the day after an Israeli strike," he tells me. "Hezbollah has 60,000 rockets, Hamas 30 to 40,000 rockets.  And I am afraid that this would be a wonderful reason for Bashar Assad to launch his missiles at us."

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    He predicts that unilateral military action by Israel would simply unite the rival factions crowding round the rule of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

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    "In any case, I believe it is impossible to destroy all the infrastructure and targets connected with the Iranian nuclear plan. It's impossible. I'm not even sure we know everything that we need to know," he said.

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    "Because of that it is my opinion to try not to do this alone," he added. 

    Instead he said sanctions and diplomacy, backed by the threat of U.S.-led military action, should be given longer to work.

    "Finally I think Western leaders realize a nuclear Iran is the number one challenge facing the world .... Therefore with this coalition I can see results. I strongly believe we have the time, maybe eight or nine months," Zeevi Farkash said.

    Israel to US: Time running out on Iran nuke dispute

    Neither Netanyahu nor Barak share his confidence in sanctions, or his assessment of the available timescale.

    Zeevi Farkash said they will want to make a decision on airstrikes "in the next two months."

    Is the window closing on diplomacy with Iran, before Israel launches a preventive strike against Tehran's nuclear facilities? Israel's ambassador to the US Michael Oren discusses.

    I asked him if political leaders can push through military action, even in defiance of the advice coming from the top brass.

    "I have been in these intimate meetings making the tough decisions," he said. "I have never seen that happen in the past so I hope it will not happen in the future."

    Back in the Tel Aviv bunker, deputy mayor Zamir told me the city was as ready as it ever can be for war.

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    "All this talk (of war) in the papers has created a sense of panic among people," he said.

    I asked him if he is confident Tel Aviv will survive, whatever comes.

    He paused for several seconds.

    "I'm optimistic," he replied.

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    Netanyahu + Ehud Barak = Bush + Cheney = Fear and hate = Death and Destruction. "War is old men talking and young men dying"

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